00:00:01 John Daub: In the center of the city for a reason. There's a friend of ours who's been in several episodes of Only in Japan who I'm going to meet today, whose big event is coming up. And I can guarantee you he's going to be really, really interesting to talk to because I just signaled him, he's running around the corner. So I want to just tell you that this is going to be pretty epic. So he's Joseph Tame. He's from the United Kingdom. He's been living here for a while. He's a good friend of mine and I'm really happy to introduce him to you again. And here he is.

00:00:35 Joseph Tame: Hey.

00:00:36 John Daub: Hey, Joseph. How are you, buddy?

00:00:38 Joseph Tame: Good to see you.

00:00:39 John Daub: Yeah, nice to see you, man. Been a while. It has, yeah.

00:00:42 Joseph Tame: I'm just doing my last training for the marathon.

00:00:45 John Daub: I see you haven't changed a bit.

00:00:47 Joseph Tame: No, no, I haven't changed my underwear in two years.

00:00:51 John Daub: I hope I—vicious lies. Yes. Aromas of the Internet.

00:00:58 Joseph Tame: Hello, everyone. Nice to see you again.

00:01:00 John Daub: Right, so I was just explaining. This is Joseph Tame. He is a wearable tech innovator. I don't even know how to say what you do exactly.

00:01:07 Joseph Tame: What do I do?

00:01:08 John Daub: Yeah, what do you do?

00:01:09 Joseph Tame: I'm a kind of inventor, video maker, runner, performance artist and very serious person.

00:01:19 John Daub: Very serious person. See, as you can see, his outfit. Why don't you go over this because we're going to go upstairs into your studio. Why don't you explain what you have on here?

00:01:28 Joseph Tame: So this is kind of a simplified version of my costume, but basically on the top here we have the pinwheel. And these, I say, are basically wind power. Right. So as I run, they're turning. Yeah, kind of. And those are generating power that's then powering my phone and my camera.

00:01:51 John Daub: Wait, hold on. Is it really?

00:01:52 Joseph Tame: It's not really.

00:01:54 John Daub: I was going, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. Where are the wires?

00:01:58 Joseph Tame: I know, but you see, people don't realize that. But I have tried to do that, but the technology is not quite there yet. And often at night time I will have LEDs as well.

00:02:08 John Daub: Okay.

00:02:08 Joseph Tame: And. But today in the daytime I've just got my windmills. And basically these are to, you know, for safety so that people don't run me over. But also what I want to do is break down the social barriers in the street so that I can make friends with the people I'm running past. You know, high fives and how are you doing today? It's a great way to make friends.

00:02:29 John Daub: It is. I think there was one chat that came in like an eco-friendly runner, but it's not quite like that. Right. He's got battery powers and he works off of an iPhone. But you've gotten a lot more streamlined over the years.

00:02:42 Joseph Tame: Yes.

00:02:43 John Daub: Now you've been doing this for like. This is your 11th, 10th year.

00:02:46 Joseph Tame: This is my 10th year.

00:02:47 John Daub: This is the anniversary run. And for everybody who's watching, he'll be running and live streaming in 360, right?

00:02:53 Joseph Tame: Yeah.

00:02:53 John Daub: The Tokyo Marathon on Sunday, which is like 10pm in the US or something like this. It's in the evening where you are. It depends where you are on Saturday.

00:03:02 Joseph Tame: Right. In like in New York, I think it starts around 5pm on Saturday.

00:03:07 John Daub: 5pm on Saturday. So yeah, it's a good time for people to tune in and watch. He'll be live streaming. I'm gonna put a link in the description so you can check out—Joseph Tame.

00:03:16 Joseph Tame: Yeah, Joseph Tame. If you just—

00:03:18 John Daub: Joseph Tame. Yeah.

00:03:21 Joseph Tame: I've been running the Tokyo Marathon every year for 10 years and it's quite difficult to get into the Tokyo Marathon.

00:03:30 John Daub: I know.

00:03:34 Joseph Tame: A 1 in 12 chance of getting into a lottery, yeah. And over the years I've entered as a charity runner where you make a donation, you get a place and things like that. So what I find is like Tokyo Marathon is the day that Tokyo really comes together. Literally over 1 million supporters on the streets. Isn't that crazy?

00:03:53 John Daub: It is absolutely insane. Yeah.

00:03:56 Joseph Tame: So for me it's—it's a really great celebration of everything that Tokyo is. It's a knackering thing as well, like having to run 42K. And the reason that I live stream it, number one, is because there's many people who can't run it for whatever reason—they're not in Japan or they couldn't get a place. So by live streaming it with video, it gives people the chance to kind of experience it because it's amazing. I mean, you've run it.

00:04:19 John Daub: I've run it. I ran in the first one in 2007 where 100% of the candidates got in. Nobody knew. So you have that impact on people. This is why this is maybe probably only in Japan thing. I don't know. If you're in the streets of New York, people might punch you, they might say you're weird. But in Japan it kind of—you stick out and people will turn. We're in the middle of the street here, people will turn and they want to take pictures or say hi. And Joseph, you've become a celebrity here.

00:04:56 Joseph Tame: I've seen you on TV shows going for it. Yeah, I set a—

00:05:04 John Daub: But if we talked to people without the outfit on—

00:05:11 Joseph Tame: They would know who I am. And really what it is—you know, in Japan, we've got all these social rules and things just kind of keep everything flowing nicely. And you know, everyday life is quite easy in a way because you know how people are going to behave. But what people also really enjoy is when they see others who are stepping a little outside of the norm and giving them an excuse to laugh and be happy. And yeah, so when I go on a train with all my gear, I might be dressed like this or I might be dressed as a Christmas tree. It's amazing how even people who have no connections, complete strangers on the train, will come together and want to take photos all together in a group. Yeah, it's just—it's wonderful.

00:05:56 John Daub: All right. Awesome. And you can see in the reflection in the window behind me, like, they're starting to rotate. Yeah. Your studio is just right here, right?

00:06:05 Joseph Tame: Yeah. So this is our place. We just moved last week. And to be honest, the reason we have this studio is thanks to this whole Tokyo marathon live streaming performance art thing. Because of doing this for 10 years, you know, I became kind of quite well known in that niche for being this guy.

00:06:26 John Daub: This guy. You're that guy.

00:06:29 Joseph Tame: Exactly, I'm that guy. And so all my business cards, I've got a photograph of me like this. So I go into really serious business meetings, hand over my business card, and these businessmen will immediately kind of relax, and they're like, oh, that guy. I saw you on TV or whatever. And it immediately makes the meeting go a lot smoother because they kind of—they kind of relax and, you know. So because of that, we started getting various requests to produce videos and do this, that, and the other. And so we were able to build up our business. It's still very, very small, but we've just moved into our first office out of our house finally after what, six or seven years.

00:07:09 John Daub: Oh, this is really good. Yeah, this is really a big—because I've been in a lot of business meetings where it's so tight and stiff and if you can have any way to loosen them up and yet not lose your standing as a professional at work, but—because I guess we've both been on TV, but what you have—is so noticeable. It makes—it leaves an impression with everybody. Actually, we're not too far from the main street. If we were to run on the main street for like a minute, you think people would stop? All right, let's—let's see the reactions of the people. We can run by them. All right. Because some people said we have to test out the running. See, it's like automatically people start smiling. I'm going to turn the camera around, and you can watch the reactions of the people we walk by. Good job.

00:08:10 Joseph Tame: It's funny. It's really fun, you know, and you—

00:08:35 John Daub: Go in between English and Japanese here.

00:08:41 Joseph Tame: Wow.

00:08:43 John Daub: Yeah. Let's hang a right and go around the block here. You know, winter—February is such a great time of the year. You really, really stick out in the winter here.

00:08:54 Joseph Tame: That's it. I mean, everyone's so cold and kind of miserable.

00:08:57 John Daub: Yeah.

00:09:00 Joseph Tame: And you would just go—go around here, actually.

00:09:04 John Daub: Okay. Oh, yeah. This is where I met you for the—

00:09:08 Joseph Tame: Come back there.

00:09:11 John Daub: I almost lost it. Right?

00:09:14 Joseph Tame: Yeah. So I sound a bit like a politician.

00:09:25 John Daub: Yeah.

00:09:58 Joseph Tame: Okay. All right, all right. You're right there.

00:10:02 John Daub: I'm fine. I'm fine.

00:10:03 Joseph Tame: You know, what was your time in the Tokyo—

00:10:06 John Daub: I don't want to brag.

00:10:07 Joseph Tame: It was amazing.

00:10:08 John Daub: It's not that good, actually.

00:10:10 Joseph Tame: Was it 3—

00:10:10 John Daub: 3 hours and 11 minutes? Yeah.

00:10:12 Joseph Tame: That is incredible. You know my fastest time in the Tokyo marathon?

00:10:16 John Daub: Don't tell.

00:10:18 Joseph Tame: Five hours plus minutes. And that was nine years ago.

00:10:22 John Daub: Well, it's—I was trying to finish fast. You're trying to—you're trying to have fun. There's a difference. Yeah. Because I can guarantee you, anyone who's run a marathon—those—everything after 35km, it's not that much fun anymore. Although it's tough. But when you have a million people cheering you on—

00:10:41 Joseph Tame: Well, yeah, this is the thing, right? This is one reason why I started it, because unless I have people watching live, I could—I would probably give up halfway through. It's so tough.

00:10:51 John Daub: I remember you walked into the Apple Store on Ginza. Was that the first one?

00:10:55 Joseph Tame: That was like, maybe the second one in 2011 or 12. So one of my friends phoned me and tricked me into thinking that the Apple Store was expecting me to go in during the race because I was using iPhones. So I went in halfway through the marathon, and the security guards are like, what's going on here? But everyone, I told everyone, I'm running the Tokyo marathon, I'm using the iPhone to live stream it and the whole Apple Store in Ginza was like, yeah—

00:11:26 John Daub: Maybe not like that anymore.

00:11:28 Joseph Tame: Now I would be kicked out of the race if I did that. So the rules have become really strict, especially since the bombing at Boston. Yeah. So now that's why my costume has got a lot smaller. I used to have like this big upper body suit with lots of cameras. But now—but to be honest, because the technology has got so much better and smaller. I mean, this is amazing—this 360 degree camera. It's so light and it's so stable.

00:11:55 John Daub: What is this? I use the gear, the Samsung Gear 360.

00:11:58 Joseph Tame: So this is the Insta One. Sorry, Insta 360.

00:12:01 John Daub: Okay.

00:12:02 Joseph Tame: And this is new. It was new late last year. And the great thing about it is it's got the most amazing stabilization. So I can actually move the camera, you know, like this, but the image will stay looking in exactly the same direction. So let's go on in and I'll show you something.

00:12:20 John Daub: Yeah, let's take a look at the studio. So I actually arrived here about 15 minutes before we started live streaming to take a look and go discuss the live stream with Joseph. And it's really cool to have your own—have your own place because we both started really small. There he goes. You have to bend down because the turbines. That's it.

00:12:44 Joseph Tame: Welcome to our humble abode.

00:12:46 John Daub: So, yeah, take out your shoes.

00:12:48 Joseph Tame: Yeah. At the moment we have a take your shoes off policy. We're not sure if we're going to maintain it, but for the time being. So yeah, it's—it's pretty small. But I tell you, it's such a great relief to get all the equipment and stuff out of our house. So we have a couple of other people who are joining us and yeah, this is it. So we have some of the gear here that I'll be using this Sunday.

00:13:15 John Daub: Yeah. Well, let me take—I mean, this is really amazing actually. You have a corner office with all windows. I can see people who are working on a salary stuck at a cubicle somewhere going, wow. I mean, this is pretty cool. And there's a lot of light coming in. This is good for a Japanese office.

00:13:34 Joseph Tame: This was really important for us.

00:13:36 John Daub: Yeah, I love this workstation. So you have people working with you. I know I've got a lot of editing, a lot of editing to do. I say that because it's nice to have a place where you can edit outside of your house and organize everything.

00:13:52 Joseph Tame: Yeah. Because for us, our house, which is just up the road, also has like a really nice view. So when we were looking at offices—and most offices, you know, they're really narrow and they've got no window. And we were like, you know, if we want to come here every day to work, then it has to be something a little bit nice. So we're—we've started off by trying to put some like wood in. So I built this, this shelving unit thing last week.

00:14:20 John Daub: Well, of course you built it. We're not gonna buy it.

00:14:23 Joseph Tame: Exactly. So I went to the DIY stores. I love DIY and yeah, I did this—like I started at 8pm and finished at 3am. I was so into it. You know, it looks good and, and we'll have—yeah, more shelving and things. Yeah, it's really solid. Real wood solid. So.

00:14:40 John Daub: Well, if you want to check with solid, I can give it a bitter test.

00:14:42 Joseph Tame: But it will probably fall over—

00:14:47 John Daub: Little gingerly there—

00:14:50 Joseph Tame: And yeah. So—and then we've got—I started laying out the equipment for the weekend. So because this camera has to stay plugged into my iPhone, right. It means that my iPhone battery can't be charging while running the marathon. So it's going to go flat if I keep on using it. So I've got three iPhones that I'm going to switch between during the race and then data—I mean, you know.

00:15:16 John Daub: I know, I know. We know—because this channel is all live streamed. That might be interesting. I actually go through about 25 gigabytes of data per month. On a heavy month I'll get up to 30, but I never use the amount allotted to me by Docomo or SoftBank. I have two phones as well, SoftBank and Docomo. Because in Japan Docomo is strong in some places and SoftBank is strong in other places. You never know what signal is gonna work for you. And the show must go on.

00:15:47 Joseph Tame: Show must go on.

00:15:48 John Daub: Show must go. So you need backups.

00:15:49 Joseph Tame: So impressed by—I mean when you were up north in Hokkaido on that Icebreaker, how did the signal—and it was really clear and it was, I was staggered. I was like, what? He's on an icebreaker and he's streaming—

00:16:04 John Daub: Live streaming on an Icebreaker. Signals travel far and fast on the below zero.

00:16:10 Joseph Tame: Yeah. So we'll have multiple pocket Wi-Fi as well to back—back us up. So we've got unlimited data on SoftBank. Two of those.

00:16:18 John Daub: Is it really unlimited or is it—

00:16:20 Joseph Tame: It really is. It's real unlimited data. Because—so I've been testing with this camera and it requires about one gigabyte every 20 minutes. So in one hour that's three gigabytes. Now, if it's going to take me five hours, six hours to run the race, plus one hour beforehand, we're talking up to 21 gigabytes of data. Yeah. So for that I need to make sure is pretty solid. Now, the thing is, with 36,000 runners, plus all those supporters, everyone is using data. Right. So I think at the beginning of the race, the signal is going to be pretty dodgy. And I've always had problems at the beginning. Can't be helped. But then later on in the race, it should get pretty smooth. So I'm really excited. I mean, it's such a great event in such a party and—yeah, just seeing Tokyo come together, it's—yeah. Ironically, it charges my batteries for a year, even though it's exhausting.

00:17:19 John Daub: You know, when I—when I was fortunate enough to get in, because it's not that easy to get it. So you put this down for a second. I used to—I ran in the Tokyo Marathon. Let's get this up here. And the first one, 2007, and again in 2008, 2009, I was getting every year. And then, you know what happened? I wasn't—it just sort of died. And yeah, I enter every year, but the last time I ran was 2012, and I haven't gotten in since.

00:17:48 Joseph Tame: Yeah, it's really—it's really tough. I think these days, probably the only like guaranteed way to get in is through the charity charity run, where basically if you donate 100,000 yen, which is—what I think is that—$1,000?

00:18:04 John Daub: Yeah, about a thousand dollars.

00:18:05 Joseph Tame: So if you make a donation of $1,000, and if you do that on the first day that the charity option opens, you will get a place. Although—but that's getting tougher every year.

00:18:15 John Daub: Yeah, I wanted to do that to take you on this with me, but it was gone.

00:18:20 Joseph Tame: It was gone. I know because like, a couple of years ago, no one was doing the charity thing. No one knew about it. And to be honest, like in the UK and the US, like, sponsored marathons are a thing. Right. Everyone understands the concept. But in Japan, there is no concept of a sponsored run or a sponsored swim or whatever. So with the Tokyo Marathon, you don't necessarily gather money from your friends and things. You just have to pay the $1,000 up front, just like that. And yeah, so even this year, actually, I missed out from the charity—

00:18:58 John Daub: And—

00:18:58 Joseph Tame: And I was like, no, it's going to be my 10th marathon. How am I going to get a place? And miraculously, I got a phone call with an invitation to run. So I'm extremely grateful to be able to do that because it's going to be the 10th year.

00:19:14 John Daub: You haven't missed one in 10 years.

00:19:16 Joseph Tame: I haven't missed one in 10 years.

00:19:17 John Daub: How do you do it? Well, you're used to it now, right?

00:19:22 Joseph Tame: Well, yeah, it's kind of like I have to do it. It's a part of who I am and my life in Japan. So, of course, that means the pressure is really on for this Sunday and this year is that I have trained the least of any year.

00:19:40 John Daub: That's just gonna make this a lot more fun.

00:19:41 Joseph Tame: Seriously. I am seriously worried if I'm gonna be able to do it because there's been a whole load of things like getting flu, getting—getting sick twice in my training period. I went to the UK for a couple of weeks with my son, and I couldn't run at all then. So it's been one thing after another. So I'm completely unfit. So, yeah, I mean, running is, what, 80%, 90% mental?

00:20:08 John Daub: Yeah, it's true. I'm not sure if I agree with—I mean, maybe not that marathon, but there's a point where just your experience kicks in and you can feel the course. I remember the first time I ran the marathon, probably just like you, I was nervous. I was starting the starting line with 30,000 people. I always lie about my time a little bit to get closer to the—that's also another thing. If you say, I expect to run 2 hours and 20 minutes, they'll put you a little bit further in the front, which is good for two reasons. One, you don't get all the exhaust from the people—I don't know what they were eating the night before. And there's also the fact that the first five or ten minutes of the marathon, if you're in the back, you're literally not doing anything. You're just standing and walking because the gun has gone off, and you're walking because there's so many people who started running as soon as a gun goes off. I would normally start running and I would sprint out a little bit. The first race, I went out and got in front of with the Kenyans and the people, and then all of a sudden, they just sort of left. I said, yeah, I forgot this is a race. It's called a marathon because it's really long. And I let the Kenyans and the—I let them go, the professional runners, anyone who had basically short shorts up to here, I let them go. And, yeah, it's a really amazing experience because you do feel that energy.

00:21:28 Joseph Tame: Oh, totally.

00:21:29 John Daub: The course has changed though.

00:21:31 Joseph Tame: Yeah. Yeah.

00:21:31 John Daub: Once again, I just want to plug—it's Joseph Tame—Jos? P? S. Why don't you write it on the whiteboard? Can you write it on the whiteboard? Is it just Joseph—Joseph P, S—Joseph Tame. That's his website. It's pretty cool. He used the dot me as part of his name. And he's like, he's going to be running the Tokyo Marathon on Sunday, which is Saturday at 5pm in New York. He does this every year. This is the 10th year. And if you can't get to Japan and you want to see the Tokyo Marathon, which is very much like an Olympic event, then you're gonna want to—you want to tune in and see Joseph, especially in the beginning when it's just crazy. And then at the end to cheer him on. Because I think when Joseph runs the marathon, I feel like I'm with him—we feel like you're—we're with you because I've been watching. If I can't make it out to support you, I will come out and watch the stream and leave annoying Twitter messages.

00:22:31 Joseph Tame: The comments—the really, really help. Because so this year I'm going to be live streaming publicly on my Facebook page so anyone can watch it, even if we're not Facebook friends. And so people can leave their comments on the Facebook stream and which I can read as I'm running and take questions and respond to them. And that makes such a huge difference mentally. I mean, the first year I did it, I had the iPhone was strapped on my head so I couldn't actually read any comments, but I could feel my iPhone vibrating. I know there's people there, so I felt that pressure. This year, for me, it's going to be—it's a little bit different because normally, like you were saying, depending on your starting block, after the gun goes off, you might be waiting like 15, 20 minutes. I have like—on your application form—you say how long you think it will take you. So like you could put 2 hours, 30 minutes. If I do that, what they'll do is they'll look at 10 years of history. They'll see five hours, five and a half hours, six hours. They'll be like, this guy is never going to complete it that fast. So I have always been placed right at the back in block J and—

00:23:42 John Daub: K. They do that purposely.

00:23:43 Joseph Tame: Yeah, they do it purposely. So I mean, K is the 10th block.

00:23:46 John Daub: Yeah, that's really back there. You're getting all the exhaust.

00:23:48 Joseph Tame: Exactly. So I'm waiting—literally the gun will go off and we will hardly hear it. We'll be like, was that the gun going off? We hear the echo of it. But this year, I think because I received a kind of invitation to run, I've been put in E block, which is quite—compared to where I always have been—it's quite further forward. So I'm hoping that's going to help my time a bit as well. Not that I really care about my time, but the thing is, I am so slow because of the problems I have.

00:24:22 John Daub: And saying hi to people. You're saying hi to the entire world.

00:24:25 Joseph Tame: Exactly. Running and talking at the same time. That in 2014, I was the very last runner in the entire race at the 30 kilometer mark.

00:24:36 John Daub: Oh, you just made it.

00:24:37 Joseph Tame: Yeah, I just got it.

00:24:38 John Daub: They closed the course.

00:24:40 Joseph Tame: They have these time gates. You have to get to this point by this time. If you don't, you get swept up by the yellow buses, the Hato Bus.

00:24:48 John Daub: That's more fun when you actually have that—that tension. And you see the—the gate closing and I could see you like, oh, gosh, now I gotta just run.

00:24:59 Joseph Tame: Yeah.

00:24:59 John Daub: And then you just slip through that. You're the guy who slips through it.

00:25:04 Joseph Tame: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:05 John Daub: That's more fun.

00:25:06 Joseph Tame: You say it's fun. I tell you, it's—it's real scary.

00:25:09 John Daub: I know. It's not as scary because what happens if you don't make the cut?

00:25:13 Joseph Tame: Right. Then that's it. Your race is over.

00:25:15 John Daub: Your stream is over.

00:25:17 Joseph Tame: In tears, the drama starts. Yeah. So for me, that year I literally crossed with about—it was under a minute to spare. All the supporters were like, go on, go on. You've only got like one minute. Go for it. And so then after I got across that point, I could then relax a little bit. And when I was relaxing, they started closing the course. They actually started cleaning up the marathon course. And then I sorted out my technology and I made my costume lighter and I gave a load of equipment to my friends. And so then I was running while they were cleaning up the course. I'm like, hang on a minute, you know, because I'm the very last runner and the people who recognize me because I always wear the same thing—Joseph, what are you doing? The course is closing.

00:26:06 John Daub: I'm still here.

00:26:07 Joseph Tame: So hopefully this year won't be that close.

00:26:10 John Daub: Yeah. So—thank you very much. We'll get something to drink. And Andrew Garcia has a question. Does the hat charge his phone?

00:26:17 Joseph Tame: So that was the idea when I originally came up with this—with this concept, was that the fans would charge the phone. And that's what I do actually tell people jokingly, but they don't because there is technology to do that. But to be honest, the size of the fans, they're too small to generate significant enough power to power the devices. So I actually use batteries. I would like to use wind power.

00:26:46 John Daub: Right. I think we're getting solar panels. But usually the day of the race, I've been had snow or rain. I've been in a lot of rainy marathons. It's not as bad as people think.

00:26:57 Joseph Tame: This Sunday is going to be cloudy. It's not going to—there's going to be no rain, but it's going to be cloudy. So it's going to be about 10 degrees.

00:27:06 John Daub: Wow. This is—Gretchen Brown is in the house. So, Gretchen, happy birthday.

00:27:10 Joseph Tame: Happy birthday.

00:27:11 John Daub: Happy birthday. We'll see Peter online. Peter has a song to sing to Gretchen, so—thank you, Gretchen. She's in Arizona right now.

00:27:19 Joseph Tame: Okay. Wow.

00:27:20 John Daub: Yeah. Watching it from home.

00:27:22 Joseph Tame: Nice. Nice.

00:27:22 John Daub: What are you doing up so late? I don't think it's that late yet. So some of the equipment—I'm looking at this table—I'm just amazed. So you have drones and batteries and—

00:27:33 Joseph Tame: Yeah, so we just came back. We've been doing a shoot in Osaka for the past few days and so, yeah, used a ton of batteries. We take the drone out sometimes. Not in Tokyo because that's—that's prohibited, isn't it?

00:27:46 John Daub: Oh, you needed that one inch sensor, huh?

00:27:48 Joseph Tame: Yeah. So I've used this out in—in Kyushu and Okinawa and the UK and we just—we just applied for our license so that we can use it commercially and—yeah, tons of batteries. We're just charging up after our trip. And GH5—yeah, the GH—oh, I love the GH5.

00:28:09 John Daub: I got that in my backpack as well. Yeah, right there.

00:28:13 Joseph Tame: Partly because of you, John, that we started using this because I remember you were using the GH4. Yeah. And at that time I was using something completely different. But yeah, seeing how passionate you were—

00:28:27 John Daub: I love my GH5. Yeah. And the GH4. Yeah. It's just the—perfect for everyone who's thinking about being a vlogger, you're picking up a camera. The thing with the Panasonic GH4, the micro four thirds, is that—the sensor—you don't need a massive sensor for video. I don't think it works better in photography. But the lenses are so much more smaller and compact if you're on the go. And the quality is—the quality is great. The autofocus—but the quality is really good. Yeah, it's easy to work with. And now they got ProRes files and everything.

00:28:58 Joseph Tame: Yeah, yeah. And I love using it with the—

00:29:01 John Daub: Oh, and you got a speed booster on there, huh?

00:29:03 Joseph Tame: Yeah. So this is using the speed booster and the Sigma—

00:29:06 John Daub: Oh, you would go with it. Is that the A2?

00:29:08 Joseph Tame: Yeah, this is the really popular one that like everyone's seen to use—this one. And then using that with the—with the Atomos—

00:29:15 John Daub: Oh, nice.

00:29:16 Joseph Tame: Shogun Inferno external recorder. Yeah. And then it's got the custom mount to fit on there perfectly so it clips. But you know, it's amazing—this technology that has come on so far in the past just few years means that people like you and I, without tens of thousands of dollars to spend on really high—high end equipment—we can produce great content with this kind of equipment.

00:29:43 John Daub: It's getting—getting the point where YouTube—we as YouTubers or creators have—have the same tools that the professionals have and now we can create—if—if you're—if you're working hard to create content that competes with the things that you would see on TV which would never be possible with VHS recorders unless you're at the adult video industry. Anything—anything was okay back then in the '80s. I wouldn't know. I don't—I'm just saying for a point of reference. Awesome.

00:30:11 Joseph Tame: Yeah. We've got the Ronin.

00:30:13 John Daub: You do? I remember when you got that—you were saying how useful and—yeah, I really enjoyed that. Yeah, yeah. So it's all good.

00:30:20 John Daub: It's all good.

00:30:21 Joseph Tame: So I just got—tomorrow I have to go to Tokyo Big Site which is the Expo center down by Tokyo Bay.

00:30:27 John Daub: Oh yeah.

00:30:27 Joseph Tame: Where I have to pick up my number bib for the marathon. And I love going there because there's all the volunteers who recognize me from previous years and it's like they're my best friends who I only see once a year. But it's so great, you know, it really is a wonderful experience. So pick up my bib and then on Sunday morning Japan time, it'll be about 7am—I'll leave here and Shinjuku is then just full of runners. Yeah, I miss it.

00:31:01 John Daub: I want to be running. Why didn't they get me in Tokyo? Listen, Governor—if you're the Governor, if you're listening—Koike-san, right? Koike-san, please don't reject me next year because I ran in the first one and that's—and we're getting close to the Olympics. How can I not run it? And the course changed. I want to run the new course.

00:31:18 Joseph Tame: Oh yeah? Yes, the new course.

00:31:20 John Daub: Yeah. Is it better or worse?

00:31:21 Joseph Tame: Oh, it's so much better.

00:31:22 John Daub: Is it?

00:31:23 Joseph Tame: It is so much better.

00:31:24 John Daub: Well, because the first 10 kilometers was downhill. Yeah, that was hard to beat.

00:31:27 Joseph Tame: So basically, I mean, the new course has changed. The main change is that the course used to finish out at Tokyo Big Site—that's out on Tokyo Bay where like no one lives there. There's not—there's just like empty fields for the Olympics. So there's very few supporters and it just feels like a long way. What they've done now is they have moved the end of the marathon so it finishes right in front of Tokyo Station. So what you're doing is the last section, you're running through Marunouchi—they're quite narrow streets compared to like they're not like multi-lane streets. It's like two-lane streets. So the supporters are really close to you. It's this really warm environment. And then you've got this great final finish down the road.

00:32:16 John Daub: Oh, stop it. You're killing me. This is as bad as food—like eating a big piece of steak in front of me. And it's the day after tomorrow. This is crazy. Yeah. So Eric Holleron says, good luck. You're getting a lot of people—Run, Joseph, run. Do you have a hashtag?

00:32:31 Joseph Tame: Appreciate it. Do I have a hashtag?

00:32:34 John Daub: Is it Run Joseph, Run? I don't know.

00:32:36 Joseph Tame: I mean, I've been using Tokyo Marathon 2018, but that's the general hashtag. But basically—I mean, Joseph Tame, if you find me on Facebook. And that's—

00:32:48 John Daub: Yeah, here's your stuff. I do want to promote it because—how many people usually watch in the live stream?

00:32:53 Joseph Tame: So it depends on the year. A couple of years ago we had 42,000. I mean, talk about pressure to complete a marathon—you've got 42,000 people wanting you to finish. How can you not? So, yeah, I'm hoping for a good turnout. You know, even if it's just a few hundred, it's a huge help. Like mentally knowing that there's people supporting you all around the world—it makes a huge difference.

00:33:24 John Daub: Well, it makes a big help when you know there's people actually watching. We got 373 people watching. If there was no one, then we probably wouldn't be as energetic. What am I doing this for? Is there anyone watching this? But people will be able to watch this later on. It'll stay on YouTube, which is really good.

00:33:42 Joseph Tame: And I'm so grateful for your support over the years.

00:33:45 John Daub: Are you kidding me? He has been in some of the biggest episodes and some of the strangest episodes as well. The first one that we did was—I think was my fifth show ever. And I called him up, I said, hey, I got this idea. Would you come out and support it? And Joseph says, absolutely. And next day he was there in front of the Toto toilet showroom and we made an episode about toilets.

00:34:08 Joseph Tame: You gave me the best gigs.

00:34:10 John Daub: Yeah, well—at least you were doing mostly sitting. It wasn't a lot of standing in that episode.

00:34:15 Joseph Tame: And then the next one—

00:34:17 John Daub: Aha. Well, now, before that, we also danced with ASIMO.

00:34:21 Joseph Tame: Oh, we did? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:22 John Daub: We got a chance to dance with Honda's ASIMO. It took me three months to convince Honda to give me a special private session with ASIMO. So he would kick the soccer ball. And I wanted to get—and you race him in your own gear, right? He has all his gear, like all the batteries. And he races against ASIMO. And you won't believe who won. Yeah, you have to watch this—plug to watch it—shameless plug. But it's actually pretty funny. This is some of my earlier work, but we started—we started that episode inside of a Honda car, which is pretty cool. We started—just go ahead—just do whatever you want. And then there was the Robot Expo.

00:34:57 Joseph Tame: Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:00 John Daub: Oh, how are you? Welcome aboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there was the toilet—sorry—the Tokyo Museum of Sewage.

00:35:13 Joseph Tame: Sewage, yeah, sorry—get me in the best places. It really stank.

00:35:18 John Daub: Had to do the laundry twice.

00:35:19 Joseph Tame: Yeah. Oh, it was really smelly. We'll talk about that.

00:35:25 John Daub: Right, so I'll just wrap it up. Check out the marathon on Sunday. Tokyo Marathon 2018 is at it. Joseph is once again going to be running for the world. Josephtame.me. Check it out—just Joseph Tame or search that in Google. Thank goodness you wrote it because I can't spell it.

00:35:46 Joseph Tame: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:35:46 John Daub: There you go. All right, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Have a good day. Okay. I usually keep running for 20 seconds and it's running. Please subscribe to the channel. The button's on the left side. There's another video on the right side. Bye. Bye.