00:02 John Daub: Good morning, everyone. I'm now at Haneda Airport. This is not a location that you would associate with Japan Rail passes in any form whatsoever. This is a place where planes depart. I just woke up and arrived here in Japan and, to my surprise — a pleasant surprise — was Ren3, who I discussed doing an episode on Japan Rail passes. And I thought this was gonna be a really cool topic. He's over there. Hey, Ren!

00:24 Ren3: How are you?

00:36 John Daub: Good. Show us what you have in your hand.

00:39 Ren3: Four rail passes.

00:44 John Daub: Four rail passes. But why? And you might wonder too. So we're gonna go up here away from this wonderful place. If you want to see a video on this area, just go up here and click the link and it'll take you to there. But let's go up here. Oh, check it out. They're putting on a performance. Haneda Airport's got some pretty neat events when the day starts.

01:06 John Daub: So, while we go up to this observation deck, let me ask you: how much did it cost for all four of these train passes? If you put all four of them together, although one of them is three weeks, one of them is two weeks, and two of them are like one-week passes, everything together is probably around $1,500.

01:24 John Daub: Wow. $1,500 for four Japan Rail passes over seven weeks? Seven weeks. This is really interesting. So we're now on the observation deck and you can see the train tracks. We can talk with the planes roaring by.

01:47 John Daub: So one of the questions that people have been asking me is: is the Japan Rail Pass worth it? Or can you just fly everywhere? And to be honest with you, I'm a resident of Japan, so I just fly. It's a lot cheaper and it takes a lot less time. But if you're a tourist coming to Japan, you might want to consider getting the Japan Rail Pass because it just pays off for itself.

02:13 John Daub: We just had a typhoon that rolled through here. I came from Korea this morning. It might be a little windy. We might have to go inside, actually, Rev, but before we go inside — whoa, it's getting windy. Show us your passes and explain: each one is a one-week or two-week or three-week? How does it work?

02:34 Ren3: Passes are offered in three different varieties. You can have a one-week pass, a two-week pass, or a three-week pass, and each one of them is a different price. A three-week pass gives you the most value because it's around $600 for three weeks and one week is around $350. So you can see that the three-week pass is more worth it, but you don't have to buy that if you don't need it.

02:53 John Daub: Yeah, three weeks is 21 days, which means that you could go to Tokyo and Kyoto and back to Tokyo morning and night, which costs one third of the pass. So it pays off. It pays itself off in three days. Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

03:08 John Daub: I think we have to go inside. The wind's pretty bad over here by the window.

03:15 John Daub: But what did you see for seven weeks? Did you see every single prefecture? There's 47 prefectures like states here in Japan. Did you do all 47 of them?

03:31 Ren3: I haven't been to all the prefectures, but what I planned was I really want to see the matsuri — the festivals in Japan. So I planned to go to all the big ones. I planned maybe like three, four months before they even started. So I went to the big matsuri: Fukuoka Hakata Dontaku, the Osaka Gion Matsuri, the Kyoto Gion Matsuri, the Tenjin Matsuri — oh, and the Nebuta Matsuri. Yeah, the big ones. There's also another one in Akita — the Kanto Matsuri. Oh, you saw the Kanto Matsuri. I haven't been to that one yet. Yeah, and the Nebuta Matsuri. Ah, that's one of my favorites. And then Tokushima Awa Odori. So those were all the big matsuri I went to.

04:18 John Daub: In defense of flights — leaving from Narita or even Haneda, they have airlines called Skymark. They have an airline called Jetstar. They have an airline called Vanilla Air and Peach. I don't know, there's just so many budget carriers starting up in Japan that these flights — I once went from Tokyo to Kagoshima for less than ¥5,000. And by Shinkansen, it would cost around ¥30,000. And it would take 12 hours. By flight, 90 minutes. So the flights are a no-brainer.

04:53 Ren3: A flight took 90 minutes. So the flights are a no-brainer. But if you're a tourist and you have some time, and you can see a lot from the train...

05:04 John Daub: Right. So does it pay off? You have here — what do you have in your hands here?

05:10 Ren3: All of these are shiteiseki, so they're the reserved seat tickets for any train on JR lines.

05:15 John Daub: Wow. So those are all the — so you rode the train this many times?

05:22 Ren3: Well, I also rode in jiyūseki — non-reserved — as well. You don't need to show any reserved seat tickets. You just show the pass and tell them where you're going.

05:30 John Daub: Oh, so you show the pass and they'll let you on the train. But if you want a reserved seat, you need one of these.

05:35 Ren3: Yeah, you want these.

05:37 John Daub: So you rode a lot of reserved trains.

05:40 Ren3: Definitely. It's better to reserve a seat if you're going in, like, a high season. Here in Japan, it's not the seat.

05:45 John Daub: Does that cost extra to get a reserved seat?

05:47 Ren3: Not with the JR Pass.

05:48 John Daub: Okay, interesting. Avery, thank you very much. So next, I want to ask you: so you came here to Japan for seven weeks to see festivals, and you traveled all over the country. Was there any place that you wanted to go that you missed with the JR Pass?

06:05 Ren3: Well, last year I didn't get to go to the San'in region, which is Tottori, Yonago, Shimane. So this time I will go there.

06:14 John Daub: Oh, so you still got some time to go.

06:16 Ren3: Well, yeah. I have a one-week JR pass I'm starting to use next week, the 27th.

06:22 John Daub: Wow. Oh, so you have five?

06:24 Ren3: Well, actually, no. Three are from last year, one is from... [laughs]

06:28 John Daub: We're decoding the story. Interesting. So you're going to take the Sunrise Izumo?

06:32 Ren3: Well, see, I wanted to take the Sunrise Izumo, but then I didn't really know if I wanted to pay $210 for the berth.

06:40 John Daub: Ah.

06:40 Ren3: Because last year, I did take it, but I used an obi-nobi — single-level bunk.

06:43 John Daub: Yeah.

06:43 Ren3: And I don't know, it was a little hard to sleep on that.

06:46 John Daub: The obi-nobi is pretty hard.

06:52 John Daub: That was introduced in the Japan Night Train video that I did in 2015, I believe it was. So, how much did you save by getting a JR Pass?

07:04 Ren3: How much I saved?

07:06 John Daub: Yeah.

07:06 Ren3: It's quite unbelievable, actually. The more you use it, the more you save. So if you're willing to put down the $1,500, you can probably get up to over $7,000 with it.

07:18 John Daub: So the ticket is reserved.

07:22 Ren3: $5,500.

07:24 John Daub: $5,500. Yes. That's insane. First of all, it's kind of insane that you did all that traveling, first of all. And second of all, wow.

07:30 John Daub: So I think the JR Pass is not for everybody. It doesn't pay off for everybody.

07:36 Ren3: It doesn't pay off for everybody.

07:39 John Daub: It pays off when I first came to Japan — I was a resident, so I could no longer ever use a JR Pass. They look on your passport for the residency stamp, and it's over. You can't get one. For these, there are other passes though that you can get that residents are allowed to take, and these are passes that you should probably know, like the Tokyo Wide Pass.

08:00 John Daub: The Tokyo Wide Pass is about $90. It's all you can ride Shinkansen in towards Niigata, Nagano, and a little bit around the Tokyo area. And it's good for Tokyo area trains. But not the Shinkansen to Kyoto. It's just limited in this area. That is a really cheap pass. It allows you to go to Karuizawa, to Utsunomiya. You can go to Nikko, but only take the Shinkansen to Utsunomiya. You can go to Yuzawa, which is where the sake vending machines were, where I introduced that a few years ago. The Tokyo Wide Pass is one of many passes you can get, but this is like the Rolls-Royce of passes, right?

08:42 Ren3: Yeah. This has no limits.

08:45 John Daub: There's no limits.

08:53 Ren3: Only a 20-minute difference from Tokyo to Osaka. I mean, it's not that big of a deal.

08:58 John Daub: Yeah, you don't need that — for short stops, you really don't need to ride the Shinkansen. For example, Osaka to Kyoto, if you have the pass, you ride it? Because if you don't have the pass, you take the shinkaisoku — the rapid train. The shinkaisoku takes 30 minutes. The Shinkansen takes 15 minutes, so you save about 15 minutes. So, yeah.

09:16 John Daub: I think if you're going to be here for a week, unless you're going to travel a lot, it makes sense just to take one Shinkansen ticket from Osaka to Tokyo and spend the time there. And then there's budget places where you can get the ticket for — Shinkansen tickets for like 10% off, right outside of Tokyo Station, actually, and Osaka Station. But one week with JR Pass is how much?

09:44 Ren3: Is it one yen?

09:47 John Daub: It's about 29,000 yen.

09:54 Ren3: Oh, should I show this?

09:57 John Daub: Yeah, let's see.

10:02 Ren3: 29,110 yen.

10:04 John Daub: If you just buy the ticket roundtrip from Tokyo to Osaka, it is 13,000 yen, and coming back it's 13,000 yen, I believe. So it's 26,000 yen roundtrip. But that ticket is half the price of a Shinkansen ticket without the pass — actually, wait, a regular Shinkansen one-way is about the same. Let me recalculate: so you're saying 29,110 yen for the one-week pass. If you just buy a roundtrip Tokyo–Osaka, it's 26,000 yen. So it's only 3,000 yen more for the pass. But that means you get unlimited rides on all JR lines for a week. So yeah, is it worth it?

11:03 John Daub: Is it worth it? Bottom line.

11:06 Ren3: Well, I think it's worth it if you're just gonna travel a lot.

11:09 John Daub: You just have to travel a lot.

11:11 Ren3: Yeah. If you're staying in one city and just one area, don't get a pass and maybe don't get it. If you're gonna travel, get the pass. Get the pass, definitely get the pass. It's just the flexibility is amazing. You can just go on any train anytime.

11:30 John Daub: What other things could you use the pass for that wasn't just trains, right?

11:33 Ren3: Oh yeah, the Miyajima Ferry.

11:35 John Daub: Ah, Miyajima Ferry, right. If you have the pass, it's free.

11:39 Ren3: Oh, the monorail from Haneda is actually free too.

11:42 John Daub: What? I didn't know that.

11:44 Ren3: Actually, yeah, I could use that. Okay, anything else? You get discounts for certain places like in Hokkaido.

11:58 John Daub: Okay. There's some touristy destinations where you get like a discount. Oh yeah, you know, up in Hokkaido and in some areas, the trains only leave like once an hour. Sometimes the buses are actually better. And JR does run and operate highway buses all over the country. I don't know if it's good for all the highway buses, right?

12:17 Ren3: I don't think it works for highway buses. It's more like local buses, the city buses, maybe that connect stations between each other. In those kinds of situations, it's so worth it.

12:28 John Daub: So if you're on the fence on whether or not you want to buy a JR Rail Pass — a Japan Rail Pass — listen to Ren3. He's like, do it. He did it.

12:36 Ren3: No, no, no.

12:38 John Daub: And he rode the train. How many times did you ride the Shinkansen?

12:41 Ren3: Over seven weeks, over 50 times, I guess.

12:47 John Daub: Over 50 times? You rode the Shinkansen over 50 times. All right, so we know we've established that's worth it. Now my question to you, Ren, is: what was the coolest Shinkansen train that you rode?

12:59 Ren3: The coolest Shinkansen train I ever rode? It was definitely the double-decker, remember? The Tokimax?

13:05 John Daub: Because they're actually retiring it soon, so if you can get into Japan and ride it, definitely ride it because it's gonna be gone soon. Do you know when?

13:14 Ren3: I don't know the exact date, but within a year or two.

13:17 John Daub: Goes up to Niigata. It's a really cool double-decker train. You can also ride it on the Tokyo Wide Pass. And I think it's pretty cool. It's a pretty cool train because the lower section's really low, and the upper section has just like — you got this really amazing view of the landscape. So that makes it a must-ride train if you're a train otaku like we are.

13:40 John Daub: What was the longest trip that you did?

13:43 Ren3: The longest trip I did in a single day?

13:46 John Daub: Yeah.

13:46 Ren3: So with the pass, I went up to Wakayama. All the way to Wakayama, in one day?

13:53 Ren3: Not in one day. But the longest trip I did was from Wakayama. I went in the morning from Wakayama around 6 a.m., arrived at Tokyo 8:30 p.m. It was about 13 and a half hours, four trains.

14:06 John Daub: So you made it from Wakayama to Tokyo in 13 hours, four trains. Easy. Did you know that they have a flight that will get you there in like two hours? Just saying, but it's a flight. If you have this pass, it's totally worth it.

14:22 John Daub: So what brought you to Japan? Like why here? And where are you from?

14:26 Ren3: Yeah, I'm from Canada. I'm a university student at — anyone's watching in there. And I came to Japan because I was watching John's channel like for a long, long time. And he did the hitchhike trip and he inspired me to go all over Japan and do these things. And I thought, what way can I traverse Japan? Even though I can't really hitchhike because I don't have the confidence in my Japanese abilities. So I thought, why not do it with trains, right? And so I saved the money for working part-time and I just did six weeks of train traveling. And I was like, I'm going to go all the way across Japan.

15:00 John Daub: That's really awesome. So if you're thinking and you're on the fence about getting this JR Pass, listen to what Ren3 just said. And I think it'll give you an idea of whether or not it pays off for itself. But if you're doing any considerable amount of travel, the only downside is that it is kind of expensive. I mean, it adds up. Like $1,500 bucks is not chump change. It's a serious chunk of cash. That's a lot of hotels. Where would you stay on these trips?

15:27 Ren3: Oh, personally for me, I use Airbnb exclusively. So my expenses were more like $30–40 a night.

15:35 John Daub: Okay. And you were on the train most of the time.

15:40 John Daub: Okay, I want to know this. This is just for me. How much of the seven weeks that you were here were you on a train? What's the percentage of your on-train travel?

15:54 Ren3: Well, and we're saying this as a plane roars by. I did all my traveling, like if I can, in the morning or at night, so I can spend as much time enjoying the things that are open. So maybe like 20% of the time I was on trains. Maybe. Like I actually don't know exactly if that's calculated.

16:11 John Daub: That's actually a lot of time. You're always on the move. Always on the move. It feels good. That was like the hitchhiking, right? Every day you wake up and go somewhere new, and that's kind of exciting.

16:25 Ren3: It would be good if I can show the audience. Oh yeah, this is a sample itinerary because I got my pass yesterday. This is basically what I'm doing with my pass for the next seven days. Sorry, next week. So basically, I'm going to go from Tokyo to Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto on the 27th.

16:41 John Daub: Okay.

16:41 Ren3: From there, Hakodate on the 28th, to Sapporo. I'm going to spend some time. And then on the 29th, Sapporo to Shin-Hakodate back again. Oh, so these are all reserved.

16:50 John Daub: All reserved. Did yesterday.

16:56 Ren3: And transferred to Shin-Hakodate. So I'm going to be back in Tokyo for a few hours on the 29th. And then same day, since I couldn't get the Sunrise Izumo, I had to think of a backup plan. So my backup plan is going from Tokyo to Shin-Osaka on the 29th and then transferring to Hiroshima that night.

17:16 John Daub: Wow. I'm going to stay in Hiroshima, and I'm thinking if I have some time, since I have to get to Shimane some other way, right?

17:21 Ren3: So I'm going to spend the night there. In the early morning, I'm going to go to Shin-Wakuni. And you know the Iwami Kanko — the three-arch bridge?

17:28 John Daub: Yeah, the three-arch bridge. So I'm going to go see that.

17:30 Ren3: And then from Shin-Wakuni, I'm going to go to Shin-Yamaguchi. And this is a really famous train. It's called the Super Oki. It goes on the San'in line.

17:40 John Daub: Oh, right. And you see the ocean the entire way.

17:43 Ren3: I've never ridden this train. Geez, you're going to see more than me. Make sure you stay on the A side, which is like the left side, and you can see the ocean for most of the ride. It's really going to be beautiful.

17:58 John Daub: That's hardcore, man.

17:59 Ren3: Yeah, it took the counter person probably around an hour to actually figure everything out. Wow, even though I gave him sheets with all the details on it in Japanese.

18:10 John Daub: Oh, he confirmed everything. Yeah, that's what they do at JR. You have to look through their big book and everything.

18:15 Ren3: So yeah, after that, I arrived in Yonago. And then basically, I want to take some trains from there — there's also local trains I'm going to take. Yeah, it's more convenient in that area. But yeah.

18:23 John Daub: So you said, will you ride like Kintetsu, Meitetsu, any of the local lines?

18:26 Ren3: Oh, yeah. It's called the Ichibata Densetsu — the Ichibata Railway. It goes from Izumo to Matsue.

18:34 John Daub: That's a nice trip. And then there's a really famous museum in Japan called the Adachi Museum of Art. You can get there from Yasugi Station.

18:51 Ren3: So I'm going to go there. And that's probably going to be the best — that's probably going to be my last stop in Shimane. And then from there, I'm going to go to Okayama, Okayama to Shin-Osaka, and that's probably my last two days with the JR Pass.

19:06 John Daub: Wow. And yeah. So that's everything. That's pretty cool. Do you have a YouTube channel or anything like that?

19:12 Ren3: No, but I'm Ren3 on YouTube. But it's not a YouTube channel. It's just my channel. Ren3, R-E-N-3 on YouTube. Also, Ren, you sometimes post on Patreon, right?

19:24 John Daub: Oh, actually, you guys can follow me on Instagram because I put all my travel videos on Instagram. All right, Instagram.

19:31 Ren3: And Instagram is Ren_Len 39. It's Ren, underscore, Len, 39.

19:40 John Daub: Okay, Ren, R-E-N underscore L-E-N 39. All right, cool. Awesome. Thanks for sharing your experience. No problem.

20:04 John Daub: I've been wanting to talk to Ren3 for a while now. When he contacted me and told me what he was doing and what he'd done in the past, I thought he was a little bit crazy. He is, in a good way. I think you have to be a little bit crazy to ride seven weeks of train. That's a lot, but you can learn from somebody who's done so much traveling like this, and I think it's a real asset. So I'm glad that I got a chance to catch up with you, even though I'm totally out of it. I was up real late last night and just got on a plane, and I'm probably gonna crash when I go home. But thanks for stopping.

20:40 John Daub: Four passes, lots of reserved tickets — $1,500, but a savings of $5,500. If you too think you can take the Shinkansen Challenge, look up Ren_Underscore_Len 39. And watch the adventure unfold. That's the best I can do. So I'm gonna give the last 20 seconds. Oh, if you — yeah, there it is. Some people around Japan wrote Ren, Ren, Len 39. That's it. That's it. Thanks. And definitely click the like button. If you like this and you like the button, this will help other people find this video by liking this video.

21:20 John Daub: Before I turn it over and end this video, I just want to ask if anybody has any questions that you want to ask Ren3 about the Shinkansen Challenge. I have a question about having a train pass. Okay, so we got some questions coming in. Let's see here.

21:30 John Daub: I spent — I had a three-week JR Pass, paid $500, ended up using $1,200 with a train ticket. You can make it really easily.

21:41 John Daub: Can he hitchhike like you? Well, maybe one day he will. Hitchhiking is not for everybody.

21:51 Ren3: So far?

21:52 John Daub: Yeah, just the tickets. How about the seat reservations? Are all free?

21:58 Ren3: You're like a normal person — you buy reserved tickets. There's like an 800-yen fee.

22:02 John Daub: Yeah, I pay 800 yen on top of the fee for Nozomi trains, and you can't use the Nozomi on that, right?

22:08 Ren3: You can't use Nozomi. She's there for us residents. Okay, so don't even try, tourists, but — Nozomi in on our path.

22:21 John Daub: Which train station has the best food, according to Sean Carney? The best food. Maybe ekiben. I keep on — I'm actually not sure. I know Kyoto Station does a really good matcha.

22:29 John Daub: The best ekiben — if you have the money — is at Shin-Osaka. There's a place where you can get Kobe beef ekiben prepared right before your eyes.

22:39 John Daub: For $30, I'm just saying. So for the travelers who plan on using the JR Pass, make sure you travel light and pack light — like a carry-on and a backpack. Or like one of these. Show us your unit.

23:12 John Daub: You — that's all you have. And it's the passes. That's ridiculous. Super light travel. Yeah, because the countryside — right, right. So always travel light. And there's not really any space for big luggage on trains. You can do the — I always do the laundry when I was hitchhiking at the hotels. There's usually a laundromat not too far away. Whenever you get a chance, you could do like three loads. I'd wash — I sink-wash it a lot of times. But I never had dirty clothes. There's bad [capsule toy] machines that you can jump into.

23:50 John Daub: Any other questions for Ren3? We're gonna end this in a minute. He has a three-week, a two-week, and two one-week. Yes. Yeah, no, it's got a right. Three, two, and two ones. He travels light.

24:06 John Daub: 100 likes! 50 more, thanks! For the update, Ram. So I am hand washing — great. I wash my hands. I don't know. I can't be a moderator. Not right now. We're like in the middle of something. Maybe I will start a smoked Cajun meatloaf of barbecue a-kiben — and actually, that would be — I'd buy that.

24:30 Ren3: Best part of Japan — for me, in my opinion, it has to be Hokkaido. Hokkaido, just because like, the trains there are really beautiful. And if you really want to support the local railways because they're in the red right now, because of the shrinking population, a lot of people are riding the train — a lot of train lines are gonna be closed soon.

24:52 John Daub: Just recently — there was something — there was a line called the Gono line in Hiroshima. They closed it last year.

24:58 Ren3: Yeah, even if it's a JR Pass, just use them if you can support the local community. Some support.

25:00 John Daub: How many trains are you gonna take?

25:03 Ren3: Me — I'm gonna take on this trip — probably around 15 or 20 trains.

25:10 John Daub: The trip — this is last year's trip, right?

25:12 Ren3: Yeah, that's the last trip. He's on a new trip. Yeah, my new trip — this is only for one week.

25:15 John Daub: Going in October. This is helpful. Nicole says thank you.

25:28 John Daub: John, thanks for the livestreams. You're very welcome. Say prison. Thanks for watching. What's your favorite mountain in Japan?

25:30 John Daub: Oh man. Japan, I like Daisekkei. I like — there's a lot of mountains that are great. If you can get a good view of the city, like Mt. Moiwa in Sapporo. Oh, yeah, great night view. Hakodate was also really — Hakodate is a good mountain. Like beautiful night view — you can see the entire city. Yeah, the views are great.

25:51 John Daub: Josh, thank you. Greetings encouraging my friends to subscribe to your main channel — do something that I could do to hit 1 million subscribers. We're getting closer every single month. We were averaging like — now let me get behind the wind — we're averaging like 30 to 35 thousand new subscribers a month, which is crazy. I think the subscription rate is gonna go up higher because we got a lot of new videos coming out. So thank you very much for the support of the main channel. We're gonna hit it this year. I know it.

26:23 John Daub: When does the pass expire? The expiration is written on the pass. Yeah, that's another thing — when do you activate it? Is that strategic? When my mom came, we had a strategy — we wouldn't activate it at the airport. We only activated it when she needed to do it and waited to get the most out of the week.

26:40 John Daub: You activate it right before you use it. So when you come to Japan, you have to exchange the piece of paper you get for the pass, and you have to exchange it within three months of ordering. But once you get to Japan, you can exchange it anytime you want to actually use it. So I set mine to the 27th of August, which is next week. Okay, so you can set it anytime when you want to use it, like you said. It's pretty flexible.

27:06 John Daub: On top of this, there are passes too that you can buy — there are special fares for tourists. That's like $100 a flight. I mean, you can get really cheap discounts on airlines because there's not enough competition. Airlines must compete with JR, and JR is probably winning because it's just fun to ride a train. Because in the United States, where I'm from, our trains stink. Sorry, Amtrak. Canada. The trains just aren't as good. Also it's ducking.

27:48 John Daub: So don't think that — seven-day pass — you can do seven days of your choosing, seven days in a row. Yeah, consecutive days. That means you're gonna be used, and then you're gonna get a lot of money out of it.

27:47 John Daub: Actually, Carolyn is here — she got a Green JR Pass. Those are a little bit pricier, right?

27:54 John Daub: But here's the thing — they pay off for themselves if you're at a busy holiday season and you don't want to stand, because I've been on a Shinkansen where I had to stand and it's not fun. Yeah, but with the Green Pass, it allows you access where you'll never ever stand. Nobody gets those tickets, they're crazy. But Carolyn did, and she made really good use of it. And I think that they could pay off — if you're saving $5,500 to get these passes, the Green Pass also pays itself off too. It's just the initial buy-in is more expensive.

28:30 John Daub: Hey guys, here's another plane taking off. Go, go, go. It's very funny how we're mixing planes and trains now. All we need is an automobile. John Candy movie — another great Canadian. So, anything else that you wanted to add, Ren, as advice for the viewers?

28:47 Ren3: Good for the viewers as advice. When you take the train, always observe the train mannerisms. So like, if you go to a local area, sometimes the trains — it's like a one-line train. It's basically one carriage train, and basically you don't have tickets or anything. All you do is get onto the train and you take a piece of a little paper, and then when you get off you show the conductor your piece of paper and pay. But in this case, with the JR, just get on and show the conductor your pass. And when you're on trains, the manners are: keep quiet, don't talk on the phone. You know, so always have respect for the people.

29:21 John Daub: And respect your fans. Do you have to carry — have you ever been asked to show your passport?

29:25 Ren3: They said you're supposed to carry your passport with the pass, but I actually never got inspected for my passport. Yeah, but I think at the very first day, when you use the first day of use for the JR Rail Pass, you're going to show this part to the gate person — confirm it — and they actually do a seal. Entry to the railway. I know about that — let me see if I can get right there. So that's where they're going to stamp that it's been right there — that's it's authorized. They might ask you to show your passport for the first time when you do that. But after that, since they have sealed the — one.

30:01 John Daub: If you have a copy of your passport — I have never been — I've never heard. You should carry your pass. I think that is the longest something. I think we pretty much covered it.

31:49 John Daub: Heard from Social Devons. You heard from Social Devons.