Why Kyoto Banned Photos on the Street
Why Kyoto Banned Photos on the Street
Overview
In this live stream episode, John Daub addresses the breaking news from late October 2019: Kyoto residents voted to ban photography in certain streets of the Gion district. John explains the reasoning behind this drastic measure, citing increased tourist misconduct such as chasing maiko (apprentice geisha), littering, noise pollution, and trespassing on private property. He argues that while restrictive, the ban is a reactive measure to protect the local culture and residents' quality of life.
John broadcasts from Tsukuda, a quiet residential neighborhood in Tokyo, to illustrate the importance of respecting local spaces where people actually live. He showcases the official "Kyoto Manners" guide (referred to as "Aki Manners" in the stream), detailing rules regarding smoking, trash, photography, and temple etiquette. Later, he connects with fellow YouTuber and Osaka resident Kevin Riley to discuss the impact of overtourism in the Kansai region.
The video serves as both a news explanation and a cultural lesson, emphasizing the Japanese concept of kuuki wo yomu (reading the air) and the consequences when individuals break social contracts. John engages with live chat questions, discussing enforcement, privacy laws, and the broader implications for tourism leading up to the Tokyo 2020 Olympics.
Highlights
- 00:00:03 John Daub: Introduces the news of Kyoto's photography ban in Gion and explains the video's purpose.
- 00:03:43 John Daub: Walks through the "Kyoto Manners" guide, highlighting fines for smoking and littering.
- 00:10:05 Kevin Riley: Joins via audio call to share his perspective on the ban and tourism in Kyoto/Osaka.
- 00:25:34 John Daub: Shows historic public water pumps and nagaya (row houses) in Tsukuda.
- 00:33:27 John Daub: Explains why Japan has few public trash cans (culture, crows, security).
- 00:47:32 John Daub: Discusses the concept of kuuki wo yomu (reading the air) and considering others.
- 00:54:22 John Daub: Advises tourists to carry passports/ID due to police checks.
- 00:57:33 John Daub: Concludes with a message on respect and community responsibility.
Timeline / Chapters
- 00:00:00 Introduction: Kyoto Photography Ban News
- 00:01:15 Walking Tsukuda: Residential Etiquette
- 00:03:43 Reviewing the Kyoto Manners Guide
- 00:10:05 Interview with Kevin Riley (Osaka)
- 00:14:23 Discussion on Enforcement and Fines
- 00:25:34 Tsukuda Neighborhood Tour (Water Pumps & Bridges)
- 00:33:27 Q&A: Trash Cans and Culture
- 00:47:32 Cultural Concept: Kuuki wo Yomu
- 00:54:22 Q&A: Passport and ID Laws
- 00:57:33 Closing Thoughts on Respect
Japan Travel Tips
- Kyoto Manners: Download and read the official Kyoto tourism manners guide before visiting.
- Photography: Do not take photos of maiko or geisha without permission. Respect "No Photography" signs in temples and private streets.
- Trash: Carry your own trash. Public bins are rare due to security concerns and crow management.
- Noise: Keep voices down in residential areas, especially after 10 PM.
- ID: Carry your passport or residence card (zairyu card) at all times; police may ask for identification.
- Temples: Remove hats and sunglasses inside shrine and temple grounds.
- Street Food: Do not eat while walking in certain areas (e.g., Kanazawa, Kyoto); find designated seating.
Japanese Language & Culture Notes
- Maiko (舞子): Apprentice geisha. Often targeted by tourists for photos without consent.
- Geisha (芸者): Traditional Japanese entertainers. They are working professionals, not tourist attractions.
- Kuuki wo yomu (空気を読む): Literally "read the air." Means to sense the mood and context of a situation to behave appropriately without being told.
- Nagaya (長屋): Traditional wooden row houses. Often found in older Tokyo neighborhoods like Tsukuda.
- Zairyu Card (在留カード): Residence card for foreign nationals. Must be carried by residents.
- Reactive Lawmaking: John notes that Japan often implements strict laws for everyone based on the misconduct of a few (e.g., drone laws, photo bans).
- Privacy Laws: Japan has strict privacy laws regarding publishing photos of individuals without permission.
Food & Drink Guide
- Nabe (Hot Pot): Mentioned by John as an upcoming festival topic (Nabe Festival in Hibiya Park).
- Street Food: Discussed in the context of bans in Kanazawa and Kyoto due to littering.
- Chicken Soup: John mentions getting hot soup to recover from a cold during the stream.
People
- John Daub: Host. American living in Japan for 30+ years. Advocates for cultural respect and understanding local rules.
- Kevin Riley: Guest. Fellow YouTuber (Osaka Riley / Kuma's Kitchen). Resident of Osaka. Provides perspective on Kansai tourism issues.
- Logan Paul: Mentioned. Referenced as an example of a creator who damaged the reputation of foreign YouTubers in Japan due to disrespectful behavior.
- Peter von Gomm: Mentioned. John's friend and fellow creator.
- Chat Users: Various viewers (Dan, Stacey, Carlos, etc.) whose questions and comments John reads and responds to.
Key Takeaways
- Respect Locals: Tourism should not disrupt the daily lives of residents.
- Rules Exist for a Reason: Bans often come after repeated misconduct by a minority of visitors.
- Privacy Matters: Taking photos of people without permission is legally and culturally problematic in Japan.
- Community Policing: Japanese society relies on individuals self-regulating to maintain harmony.
- Kyoto's Stance: Kyoto prioritizes preserving its culture and environment over maximizing tourist revenue.
Notable Quotes
- 00:07:45 John Daub: "Japan is reactive to what one bad person will do... If you have a freedom and one person breaks it, whether you think this is right or not, this is Japan's way."
- 00:11:27 Kevin Riley: "When one person breaks the rules, everyone suffers."
- 00:21:12 John Daub: "Before you break the rules, you have to learn the rules... Learn the rules before you break rules."
- 00:33:27 John Daub: "The city of Tokyo is cleaner with no trash cans. All right, just think about that for a second. It might not make sense to you, but it's true."
- 00:57:33 John Daub: "We're not just thinking about the self. We're not thinking about ourselves. We're thinking about the people around us."
Related Topics
- Overtourism in Japan
- Geisha and Maiko Culture
- Japanese Privacy Laws
- Drone Regulations in Japan
- Tokyo 2020 Olympics Preparation
- Residential Etiquette in Tokyo
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Full Transcript
00:00:03 John Daub: What a beautiful day for us in Tokyo, but not so much in Kyoto because just on the 25th of October, residents of Kyoto voted to ban photographs in certain streets and neighborhoods in the Gion area. We're not quite sure exactly where, but this news has hit the wire and it's kind of a big, big news. And in this video, I'm going to explain why and my own personal experience and why this might not be a bad thing. This might be a good thing and why it is a good thing for them and a bad thing for you. So we'll start from the top here. I also, you might want to stick around a little bit because I also talk with Kevin Riley, who is a resident in Osaka, and I'm going to be playing back what his thoughts were on why this ban is taking place. It's going to be pretty interesting. And I'm going to also be showing you that Kyoto actually has a guide on how tourists should act in Kyoto. I'm going to show that to you and you can actually see this in the description. There's a link in the description of this video so you can download it yourself and learn some of the rules that you need to have if you go to Kyoto.
00:01:15 John Daub: This is a quiet neighborhood in Tokyo. It's a residential neighborhood. People, they have rules here. And if you break the rules, new rules pop up to enforce them. There's a lot of little alleys here. There are some tourists, mostly from France. But not a lot of people come to this area of Tokyo, which is called Tsukuda or Tsukishima. I really like it. Here's a quick alley. Let's walk to the end of the alley and I'm going to show you some of this information. It's really cool to go through here. But people live here and you have to be very polite and respectful of the neighborhoods at night. Not talk too loudly. You don't want to disturb your neighbors. You don't want to take pictures. You don't want to go out without permission. Things like this. It's just not a good thing to do.
00:02:11 John Daub: It has been suffering the locals, the residents for a long time on the increased boom in tourists there. So much so that I don't know if they actually know how to deal with it all. It's a lot that's happened over a very short period of time. When I first went to Kyoto 20 years ago, there were still a lot of tourists. But they were restricted to like Kinkakuji, Ginkakuji, Kiyomizudera, the tourist areas. But recently, because of people like me, it might even be partially my fault. We've introduced you to the alleyways of neighborhoods. And a lot of people take advantage of that and they go there and they literally stalk maiko (apprentice geisha) and geisha.
00:02:58 John Daub: I took a video here. Check this out. I was there. I was in Kyoto last year to film this. Let me see if I can push play. There are a lot of people outside of an area, they're stalking a geisha. So the poor lady comes out and then she gets swamped for doing her job by tourists who want to get a picture with her. That's not such a bad thing, you know, for us as tourists. But it's a pretty tough thing for maiko and the neighborhood, which just simply do not want any of the traffic there.
00:03:43 John Daub: So, Kyoto came up with a rule book right here. Check this out. It's called Aki Manners. And in here, you can see, you can download this and print this out. It's kind of neat. So we'll start here from the top. If you don't have any video, try refreshing your screen. Don't smoke outdoors. This is a problem with a lot of tourists that are doing it. You will be fined a thousand yen. But it's okay. This is for Japanese too. This is not just for foreign tourists. Be polite when asking maiko for pictures. Don't just start taking their pictures. There are laws in Japan where you can't take someone's picture without permission. You should always ask when you take a picture. You cannot publish them without somebody's permission. It's against the law.
00:04:47 John Daub: Taxi doors open and close on their own. You don't have to force them open. They're automatically doing it. This is interesting. Don't litter. There's a fine of 30,000 yen. People were littering a lot in Kyoto where things were all over the place. There's a problem with street food. Actually, there's an area in Kanazawa, Higashichaya. They've actually banned street food. You're not allowed to eat on the street because tourists have come in there and they've completely just thrown the trash around. Mostly bus tours from other Asian countries. They can't find trash cans. So they just throw it on the street. And the local residents say, we cannot have this. So Kanazawa banned street food in that area. And when I went there to go film a street food episode, I was shocked because people did not follow the rules. The result was that they banned it for everybody. And if one person breaks a rule in Japan, they'll have a meeting about it and then they'll end up banning it for everybody.
00:06:00 John Daub: Can you get a permit to film? Yes. But you can also get permission by asking somebody, can I take a photo of you? Let's go back to this really quickly because it's interesting. Take your shoes off before stepping on tatami. I guess tourists have done that before. Don't bring your own drink and foods to restaurants. Tourists have done that. Don't cancel restaurants at the last minute. We in Japan have the ability to make reservations. And no one in Japan does it. Not to cancel at the last minute. They don't do that. But foreigners do that. And if you break the rules, then everyone loses. So just don't do that. Please line up in an orderly way. These are real rules. Don't bicycle under the influence. One million yen and five years in prison. Keep toilets clean. There's a guide on how to use Japanese toilets. Make room for others. Get out of the way on trains especially. Let people get off and on. Don't leave your bicycle on the road. Just little things that have been bothering locals for a long time. Don't take pictures near train tracks because you can get hit by the trains. People are taking selfies. Don't take pictures where prohibited. Sometimes in shrines and temples. If the sign says don't take pictures, don't take pictures. Remove hats and sunglasses in shrines and temples. I always do that. Try to be quiet and respectful in shrines and temples. A lot of people are not. There's just too many people. The rules are in the link in the video description. Just go check it out because it's pretty funny. But it's funny to me because like why do people need to be told this, right? I don't understand that so much.
00:07:45 John Daub: But the thing is a few years ago, no, I'd say like more six years ago. Somebody flew a drone. Japan didn't have many drone rules. But somebody flew a drone onto the roof of the prime minister's residence. And it landed on his roof. The police found it. And that freaked out a lot of people. And very quickly laws, draconian laws came about where you could not fly drones in the city of Tokyo at all. For no reason whatsoever. With awful laws. And I had a drone. I'm like, ah, this is awful. But I can understand where it comes from because everyone loses when one person breaks the rules. So if you have a freedom and one person breaks it, whether you think this is right or not, this is Japan's way. Japan is, it's Japan's country. They will make laws like this. Now we have a ban of photographs on the street in certain neighborhoods because tourists, this happened on October 25th. October 25th, just about three days ago. Because tourists were climbing fences, were going into private property to take pictures, were extremely loud after hours. And taking pictures of maiko swamping them to the point where they're so uncomfortable they can't do their job. The result is that they ban photos and they fine it. Now we don't know how. I saw French people doing that. Well, I've seen American people doing that too. My countrymen. I'm just telling you right now that Japan is reactive to what one bad person will do. See the weak points in it and try to find solutions. And the solutions are not always good. They'll just do something bad and everyone loses. That's, they don't want any risk. They're also worried about the safety of the maiko and the geisha. It's just too much. And I can understand it.
00:09:33 John Daub: So I called my friend Kevin Riley. A lot of you know him because he's been on a lot of street food episodes. And whenever I go to Kyoto or Osaka, I call my friend Kevin. Kevin's awesome. And I asked him his thoughts on it. And I filmed it. So let's take a look at this. I'll put it right here. And there's some audio so you can hear what the king of Osaka has to say. There he is, his smiling face right there. Let's get him here. Audio. Here we go. This is Kevin.
00:10:05 Kevin Riley: How you doing? Your Instagram is Osaka Riley, right? I'm Osaka Riley. The king of Osaka. And my go-to guy, our go-to guy for Osaka and Kansai region, which is why we're calling. Yeah, you have questions, right? Yeah, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the Kyoto photo ban. And I think, you know, you can kind of understand why they would do that, right? What's your take on it?
00:10:36 Kevin Riley: Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, it's been promised that I think a lot of good stuff, you know, like I'll take it. And especially going around chasing the maiko and stuff like that. I can understand both sides. I mean, I understand as a tourist, it's cool to get a photo of a maiko, right? I mean, come on. Yeah, but you got to also remember that, you know, they do have lives and no-show and stuff like that. So, yeah, I can understand why they're bringing it. But it seems to fit Kyoto's way. Kyoto has their own way, right? I mean, they're very private people in Kyoto, especially those areas. And this is only limited to a few alleys. It's just because when, I guess my take on this is when one person breaks the rules, everyone suffers.
00:11:27 John Daub: Yeah, and that happens a lot. You know, we see that happen here in... But that's Japan. It's like, you know, better safe than sorry. Let's bring in the rule. Let's change things. You know, they love bureaucracy. So, hey, yeah, it's too bad. Apples ruin the whole thing. I think just the culture has changed too fast for what Kyoto is. And Kyoto is a quiet, peaceful place. And now it's become kind of a loud place. And this is a reaction to that.
00:12:22 Kevin Riley: Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, when I came here 20 years ago, I was there first right away. And then my sister came here and she said, you got to go to Kyoto, right? And I was like, okay, you better go. And it was really peaceful in those days. Like, Sannenzaka and places like where you and I went had that much ice cream in that time. Right. You know, that used to be where you just kind of wander along and enjoy. So, it has changed a lot. I mean, you know, Osaka too. Like, Nipponbashi and places like that. Or the Dotonbori. It's so full. When you and I shot that food episode that time. I think it's just too many people chasing down the maiko, chasing down people for photo opportunities. And being really loud about it. And just different cultures. You can't blame them. That's their culture. But here, they have to find ways and rules to taper that down a little bit. And they will actually find people. I'm pretty sure it's Kyoto. They'll do it. It's so many people staying out. Just to educate people as to rules and manners. I've had this quite a few times. You know, because I do the tours. And I've had people go and throw garbage into, you know, where you're supposed to put your pet bottles. And tell them, no, no, that's not a garbage can. But no, they're told all these things. And that's the problem too. I think it's just if you could educate more of the tourists who come here, they'd know what things to do. When you come in at the airport, you've got to read them. Not everybody. There's a small percentage. They just don't want to do what they're told because they don't agree with it personally. And I think finding them is maybe the only way. Drones is a perfect example. There have been people told, please don't fly drones.
00:14:23 John Daub: So I talked about this a little bit. I talked about this already. Kevin is exactly right. Like people need to be educated and they need to be told on manners. Kyoto released this like last year. Again, you can download this and take a look at it. It's kind of fun. I printed it out. I'm going to be putting it on my refrigerator. This would be a great magnet of what not to do. Like slap it on the back of your refrigerator. But look, how long do you educate tourists? Because they've been doing this for years. This is not a new thing. It just came to the point where the only thing that tourists will understand is when you fine them. And if you come out with a police officer and say, here's your fine. Pay $100. You're not allowed to take pictures here. That's the sign. If you can't understand that, this is the only way to get the message out. And I can understand completely. Kyoto wanting to do this. And I don't fault them at all. I think that it's probably the best way for people to take notice now. Now the international media is all over this. CNN jumped on this two hours ago. NHK reported this like earlier this morning. I'm doing it. I'm one of the guys probably who helped to cause this problem by introducing you to some of the quiet alleys of Kyoto's neighborhoods. I'm so sorry, Kyoto. Kyotoans. I did not realize that this would happen. But it is. I never said to do the stuff that people are doing. And once again, this is not you. This is not like normal people. There's like one or two 1% crazy people in the world. It's just you see them like commenting here in the live stream sometimes. And the matter is have to ban them or block them. They exist. And when those crazy people do something bad in Japan, in the United States, we will just penalize them and let the society be free. In Japan, they just crack down on everybody. And that means that's another reason why Japanese society people police people. So people will tell you not to do something or they will make sure that their own neighborhoods are safe. The reason why is because they know if you don't, everybody loses.
00:16:25 John Daub: When a kid or a teenager goes and he buys tobacco from a vending machine and for decades, anybody can go and buy tobacco from a vending machine without ID. But then more and more kids started to buy it and were reported and then they changed it where now you need an ID card. They were reactive to it and now everybody who had that freedom suffers and you lose it. So all the little things that make Japan free, we want to protect that and we police ourselves. And when they don't and when we don't, we lose it. And right now, we've lost the ability to take pictures in certain alleys which is not a bad deal. It's not the whole Kyoto. Let me make this very, very clear. Not the whole Kyoto is banned for filming. It's not just for taking photos. It's just a certain... Certain places here.
00:17:11 John Daub: Dan writes in here, in Kyoto, I was in camp two years ago and the driver told to take my baseball cap out of respect. I've never worn it again ever since entering that town. I've got checked. I take my hat off at the temples and the shrines and I leave... I wear my hat because my hair is a disaster. It's just too hard to manage. And I like my hat. I also get sunburned and it just keeps the fort down. And it's, but, you know, I don't have the same kind of culture and manners, I guess, as some people. But I'm respectful to it. And you don't go to a temple or shrine or a church and you wear your hat. Take it off. Be respectful. Stacey loves my hat, too. There's that, too. But you always want to be respectful of the culture. If somebody asks you to take off your hat and you're a visitor, you do it. You don't argue with them. You say, oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. That's what a normal person does. But if you come to Japan or especially Kyoto and you try to be a tourist with your own manners, I'll tell you something. Kyoto does not need the tourist money anymore. Kyoto does not need to attract tourists. Kyoto is fine without attracting more tourists. And if you told tourists not to go to Kyoto, more tourists would go to Kyoto. All right. So this is just the way Kyoto's got the history. People go there for that. And they've been very polite to tourists, allowing them to, you know, be so disruptive of their own neighborhoods. But, you know, I'm just a little bit entertained by the banning and how much news this is going to make. And they're going to receive a lot of kickback from people who don't understand the rules. I understand that. And they're going to say, we're Kyoto. We do it. We do it a different way than everyone else. We have our way. And I totally respect that because that's Kyoto's way. What do you guys have to say about this? Click the like button if you think that this is bad. Because I don't want to say click the like button if you think this is good. Click the like button anyways if you like these live streams. How about that?
00:19:28 John Daub: Tourist cities had their own version of suffering. You know, Prague. There's a really good YouTuber named Honest Guide. That's the name of his channel. He talks about in the Czech Republic. Tourism in Prague. Prague has been completely overrun by tourists. I went to Prague for the first time 20 years ago. No, more than 20 years ago. In 1996. And there weren't that many tourists. There was a beautiful John Lennon wall that was cracking and paint. Tourists have come and they've taken away. They've chipped away all of the paint off of that painting. They break the rules. They make it harder for the locals to live. But they also bring in tourist money, which is really good. The problem is though that you don't need that much money. And if it starts disturbing the natural flow of society, locals don't want to live there anymore. And Kyoto is very much like that. Locals don't. A lot of people are starting to hate their own town and they want to take it back. And they want to change it. And I think Kevin and I both can understand that. Kevin's channel is called Kuma's Kitchen. His Instagram, which he just started, is Osaka Riley. R-I-L-E-Y. And he's a very good friend. He's a big fan of the channel and he has a lot of supporters here. So definitely I want to see him get as much love. He's always cooking good food for us, too. Kevin Riley. Thank you so much, Kevin. I'm here now to take some questions because I think that this is really important topic for everybody. Again, the link is in the description for both Kevin's channels and the rules of Kyoto. If you're going to Kyoto, you're going to want to watch these rules because that when everyone asks me, how do you be respectful to Japanese culture? You can read the rules. That's why they wrote it. And be entertained by it. But understand them.
00:21:12 John Daub: All right. I had I was friends with the director of a very, very big marketing company. Hey, Green Pumpkin. Hello from Czech Republic. Can I and I are going to be in Prague on December 5th, 6th and 7th. So maybe we'll do a meet up in Prague and respect the laws and rules and be really polite about it. But I'll tell you this. I have a friend who's a very, very high ranking executive at a advertising company, one of Japan's biggest advertising companies. We were having dinner one night and he told me, look, one of the great things with advertising and why young people who think they can be really good at advertising fail is because before you break the rules, you have to learn the rules before you break rules. You must learn the rules, learn the rules before you break rules. And before you start breaking Japan's cultural rules, learn them. So then when you do break them, you understand them. And then if you understand them, maybe you can find a way to rectify that and then be back in people's good grace. I know that because I had to learn the rules so I can sometimes break them, like know when to eat on a train, know when to walk and eat. You know, you can kind of do that if there's a street food area, if there's chairs all around there, then you should sit and eat. If there aren't chairs around there, it's sort of OK. But if you're walking around, you can try to walk, but just be very careful about it and make sure you carry your own garbage out. Like these are things that you have to respect and know these rules. And then when you do, you can understand when to break them. And those are the best things. Again, the link is in the description. I totally think that you should check them out.
00:22:58 John Daub: I'm still recovering from a cold that I caught from my wife, who probably caught it from going to the Rugby World Cup. So it's my fault. Not. Do you have anything to add in here? In areas that are permitted, you can take photos in any areas that are permitted to take photos. But the thing is, don't just don't take maiko and geisha's pictures without permission. If you ask them nine times out of 10, they might stop and let you take a picture with them. It's going to be a better picture. But if you're afraid of getting rejected and that's the reason why you don't ask, you're breaking the law because Japan has very, very strict privacy laws. Meaning if you take somebody's photo or you focus in on them and video them, not just like they're just in the background. That's one thing. But if you focus in on them and you publish something, you can be sued in Japan. So public domain might be an American thing where you could just take pictures of people on the street. That's not really the law here. I don't know the law 100 percent, but I will tell you that I've been told many, many times. Pigeons are okay. You can take pictures of pigeons. That's okay. But don't take pictures of people and focus on them. It's just I remember there was a tourist. He was from Poland. Very nice guy. And he had a very long zoom lens on a tripod and was taking pictures of people in Ginza their fashion and he wanted to publish it in a magazine. I told him, you know, you're breaking the law without their permission. You cannot publish any people's images here in Japan. He didn't. But like Kevin said. He just did not know the law. He just didn't know the law. So when I told him that he really apologized and he went back to the hotel and I guess he called his publisher and said that we have to get permission from each person or you have to have a release form to let them go in Japan. Usually a verbal permission is enough. But signing anything with a contract that requires a lawyer is just suspicious to people. So if you get a verbal permission, usually 99,000 out of 100. It's going to be okay. Like these pigeons. You can take pictures of them. Just don't feed them. There's signs here. You might want to feed them. The pigeon might look hungry, but there's laws against that. Don't feed the birds. Even wrote it in English because probably yeah 99,000 times out of 100.
00:25:34 John Daub: I got to write a book about some of the things that come out of this mouth when I start doing live streams. I saw the other day. Somebody. Writing a cut a kayak in here and they now have signs that say no kayaking. It's pretty clear to understand that means no, but people will still do it because they don't understand or they just don't know. But once you tell them usually people are pretty smart 99,000 out of 100 people will be pretty smart and understand the rules. I can't believe I just said that you can eat the pigeons. There's no sign saying you can't. Don't do that. Don't do that. But I feel for Kyoto. I feel for the people there and I can understand why they would do that. Look at the little shrine between the apartment buildings here. It's really pretty. This is one of my favorite areas of the city of Tokyo. Don't come here. I don't want to ruin it. This place is called Tsukuda. It's not far from the closest station is Tsukishima. And if you do come here, please remember that this is a neighborhood. It's very quiet. Be respectful and we'll still have those alleys like you saw in the playback. You're going to have to see it. If you're just tuning in you'll see these kinds of things if you'd like to just something I want to show you. All right, that's pretty neat with this neighborhood and I'm going to do another tour of this neighborhood. I think in another livestream, but if we can get the 300 likes I will show you anyway, I'll just do it. I'll just show you. Again in another livestream. What do you think? What do you think guys up to you? I'll show you a little bit of this neighborhood. If you give me some love happy Diwali everybody in India.
00:27:38 John Daub: So down the street and again, like I'm just going to be really respectful. I came here and filmed an episode for NHK's Tokyo. I about 10 years ago and about the nagaya (row houses) and the apartments here and I found. That they still have public water pumps. Do you see that right there? And this is the old culture of Japan that still exists and you're not going to see this for much longer. See this water pump here. Anybody can come and pump the water before they had plumbing on this island of Tsukuda, which goes back like hundreds like centuries. People would come to water pumps all over Japan. And this is where you would meet your neighbors and talk about stuff. Everybody had to go get water and they still work. Look at that. See you could still get it and you could still drink it. It's still pretty good. So these go back hundreds of years and yeah, I know. I know a lot of little teeny historical stuff in the cities. This is pretty cool, huh? See I told you look if you guys click like I will show you stuff. You'll find these really neat alleys. This stuff is not going to be here for much longer too, which is a shame these old wooden buildings. So I'm going to come back here on another day. That's it's so beautiful like today and bring you another live stream. Another live stream. I want to right now go into the chats. This is really important. I want to get your feedback also in the comments below leave your thoughts. Is this bad? Do you disagree with Kyoto? Do you agree? Do you see their point? What's your take? Let me know Kyoto will be reading them. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that what we talk about here Kyoto will read them.
00:29:34 John Daub: What's up? He's like look at there's a youtuber Kyoto will probably be reading these. Okay. Hey David. Thank you all David. I'm going to totally get some get some hot soup. There's like a little cafe up there. I might get some get some chicken soup or something by the way, by the way, I have here for Britt Britt in Hawaii. This is your postcard. Thank you for signing up to the postcard Club and it's going right now in this mailbox. Right here Britt. So probably the 4:25 it'll be picked up and it'll be on its way to Hawaii. Thanks for the support Britt. These videos are the only way I will get to see Japan Rose. Has well, I'll keep bringing you to different corners of the country. I have I'm going down to see Kevin in November. I believe I'll be able to see him. So we'll get a chance to see with the king of Osaka himself. I agree with. Carlos writes in here. I agree with Kyoto too many made it bad. So they had to make rules. So Carlos agrees with Kyoto and Amber Lily writes in here Kyoto their town their rules. No negotiations. No, no, no, not be rights in here. I was I was some awful be behavior by tourists in Kyoto. I think it is an overreaction but I get where they are coming from. So yeah, maybe. Japan tends to overreact or go too far on the rules and then they can make it lighter means they can always get rid of the rule or make the fine smaller, but they're going to start off really really strict. That's just the way it is.
00:31:29 John Daub: No photos, but can they film Travis? No, no cameras. It's not no photos. It's like no cameras. Maybe that's a better way to say it. Nobody wants nobody wants that pictures here. Nasha broad. There are a lot there for the Rugby World Cup already. Yeah. That's another thing. It could be a reaction of people to run the Rugby World Cup. Something happened to trigger this though. It was a build-up for a long time and there must have been one incidents that was just over the top. They said we got to do something about it. Panda Club Panda Club writes in they aren't overreacting. You won't want Japan to have litter everywhere allowed people no respect for the rules or culture. So yeah, you have to have rules and culture and you have to make some big splash that will make the news. So people will understand. Why don't Japan's have had Japan has more bins on the street. The reason why is because people this is a cultural thing. We take our own trash home and separate it and you can you can go to the convenience store and throw your trash away there or the train stations. You can throw your trash away there. The reason they don't have it on the streets. There's two reasons. I can three reasons culture. The second reason is crows. There's too many birds that will go in there and make a big mess out of it. And there's nobody to police. The bins to make sure they do it. Nobody no one's going to put a lid on there. It stinks. There's another reason you don't want trash to smell and also it's a it's a security hazard a bomb situation. If somebody that this all happened after the gas attack, I believe on the Hibiya line in 1995 after that attack happened. They just took out trash cans and they felt that actually when there's no trash cans the city is cleaner. Get that one, huh? Try to wrap your head around that the city of Tokyo is cleaner with no trash cans. All right, just think about that for a second. It might not make sense to you, but it's true.
00:33:27 John Daub: Nona B. Thank you for the amazing cut. Thank you. No, no, that's really nice. David Brett writes in here. I'm a subscriber just sending this because I love your channel and you're super nice guy. Thank you, David. That's really nice. And Cobra Bebop camera ban is probably a good thing. It's one thing. I live in Arizona and have to consistent. This is from trucker Matthew. I live in Arizona and have to consistently go clean up the Saguaro National Park's pulp trash of cacti and pick up your bottles. The desert is now full of life to those who don't know. Yeah, this is another problem when you have trash cans people will I don't know why but Japan just has a culture where people will if what they bring in they take out. So that's one of the reasons why I love this country so much. Does people just respectful of their own personal belongings and the nature and situation around them? And if they litter, they're also afraid that someone might have seen them and they don't want to get in trouble. So that's another reason why people don't litter. But you know, Japan just has a culture of taking your own garbage with them. And I like that and I do that now too for better or for worse probably for better. I should make sure I do. Do that America is filled with random trash cans. Yes, but it's convenient right and gives jobs to people but if people abuse the rights and they don't throw the trash away or they don't recycle then people lose those trash cans in Japan. The ones that we do have so it's just different cultures.
00:35:11 John Daub: So your Chris Hansen, right? Chris is always an interesting guy. I would be sticking wrappers in cracks or burn it up with a lighter Chris. Please. Talk with your mother about your behavior. Leo Doyle. So they take away people's phone cameras. Leo good. I'm glad that you asked that and brought that up. There's no news on how they will enforce it. They will give a ban. The kid was very very interested in in me as he he's just kept staring at me. He's so cute. There is a the Kyoto has not told us how they are going to enforce this law. But I have a feeling that they will enforce this. Law because they're Kyoto. It's one thing in Tokyo. If you know, they might let you go and say oh you didn't know in Kyoto. They don't care. They don't need more tourists. If you Instagram that you got fined they're happy with that and news will get around. That's Kyoto. They're very very they got their own tough way. I was in Kyoto weeks ago and was irritating seeing photographers with their DSLRs using flash throughout the night and didn't even didn't didn't even light up anything. Other than the blinding people. Yeah, this is it. This is from Cordy access. This is very true. The flash photography. Wait you are flash photography at night is very annoying to people. If you have your blinds up.
00:36:40 John Daub: Kyo-do. It thinks a lot construction. I'm going to walk this way. All right, Kyoto has rules so strict that you know McDonald's and Kevin said this in the video. I think I cut him off. McDonald's can't use the color red in their. Signs Starbucks has to subdue the color and advertising in Kyoto chains cannot come in without permission. It took Starbucks a long time before they could open up a shop on Ninenzaka, which is this very traditional street in Kyoto. So you're going to see convenience stores do not have the same colors in Kyoto. They've had to adhere to Kyoto's rules. So don't think that you're special in Kyoto. Be be one of us and just. Know that there's rules and you have to get knocked around a little bit. I was in Kyoto a few weeks ago from Jason Lewis same trip. I met John and I was surprised at how many tourists there were insane. Yes, there's a lot of Kanazawa was the same thing. Kanazawa had like 80 a 90% of the church of Kanazawa were Chinese and that's not that I'm not going to pick on any nationality or anything, but it was really really loud in the quiet side streets of. Kanazawa and I know they don't want the tourist money anymore. They're okay with just leaving it and enforcing their rules. Kanazawa is a mini Kyoto. Kanazawa is a beautiful beautiful city. Kanazawa has rules now as a reaction to bad bad behavior by tourists. Don't climb a wall and try to take a picture of a of a geisha getting ready because of Instagram. Don't break the law because of Instagram. I see people killed taking pictures on train tracks on YouTube for in for selfies for Instagram. This is too much. So there has to be a point where enough is enough.
00:38:41 John Daub: It's the tram. I'm going to take one or two more questions here. John, what's the upcoming festival in Japan? What is coming up next month? I'll be going to the Nabe Festival in Hibiya Park again. I love the Nabe Festival. What is coming up? Halloween is I believe they're still doing it in Shibuya. Christmas Disney. If you ask ask our friend Spencer. Any donuts left? No, no. Are you a Cowboys fan? I used to like Ezekiel Elliot. What does that have to do with Japan? I'm a I'm a Buckeye guy. Okay, I used to like Ezekiel Elliot, but he's he's not the sharpest blade in the drawer. I'm learning that he might be a real not nice guy. So but he's really good at football. And yeah, I won't not but root for a Buckeye unless they break the law. Can you abduct me so I can live in Japan? That's crime. Even if it's a your family would come after me. John, how was your day so far? It's going okay. Just need to get some soup or something hot when when they start decorating Christmas in Tokyo. Usually it's the day after Christmas like the day. No, sorry the day after Halloween. It's already started this year at like around October 15th. The Christmas lights are out already. Just doing the Christmas tree in your Tokyo Station already already Leopold. I don't know where he is. You can have to contact him. He's got his own his own channel. He has his own social media. You can contact him directly. I'm not his agent talking about Peter. Yes, Ohio State is is we're very proud of our Buckeyes. Anything else on Kyoto Kyoto anybody today is Diwali in India. Happy Diwali. We don't celebrate Diwali in Tokyo per se but the Indian community will do it there in Kasai. I believe there's some events in Edogawa ward of Tokyo where there's a lot of Indian community there, but nothing special plan that I know of. Yeah, I wish I was in India for Diwali. It's such a festive time. It's a lot of fun.
00:41:12 John Daub: Someone climbed the walk over bebop. I I heard reports that they were tourists going into private property and they were there being places that they weren't and some people were climbing a wall to try to get Instagram pictures. I love Kyoto, but they're a little strict on tourists. This is from era. Ohara. Yeah, I think though that there's too many tourists. I think that you have to be overly strict and then you can loosen that strictness up. But no one will pay attention. To the rules. If you just make it for the case sense of making a rule, you have to be able to enforce it and it's going to be interesting to see how they enforce it and I believe that they're going to have to that's the story. I thought the geisha had bodyguards. The why should they have to have bodyguards? I don't understand why geisha need to have bodyguards and why people can't just respect them. And if you want to take a picture of a geisha dress up as one and pay to do that and you can walk the streets and you can have people take pictures of you and see how you like it. I can guarantee you that if you get if you have white makeup and a kimono is are walking around a thousand tourists are going to come and ask your picture and you're not going to like that. I wouldn't like that. But if you see me come in and you take my picture, I'll like that because I'm okay with that. Okay, I'm getting used to it. Okay with that Kyoto, they will notify at the airport. I agree with taking pictures as you Kyoto does not have an airport that's in Kansai in Kyoto in Osaka. So the I believe at Kyoto Station and ports of call you will start to see more signs and responsibility like calls for responsibility, but I'm going to tell you right now because I'm going to tell you right now read that rule book before you go to Kyoto just out of just because it's fun but do it because as I said, you can break the rules when you know what the rules are and you understand that I think you can kind of skirmish it a little bit, but you have to understand what they are. To begin with.
00:43:17 John Daub: I honestly believe that Tokyo 2020 will have some trouble because there's too many unpredictable things that happen and Jeff the culture here is different than anywhere else in the world. But what happens after the Olympics as a result of it will be very interesting. I do know and that's a shrine behind me. I do know that after the 2002 World Cup. We had some issues with hooligans. They called them mostly from the UK. And rules were enforced where known hooligans are sent back and deported on this on the spot and they had like I don't know. It was pretty pretty crazy. That's probably not the best thing to do, but they did it. They did that. So Japan is reactive and this is a reaction to something that happened and we all lose will Japan get rid of the photo ban. The answer is I don't know. But there's a possibility. That they will there's a possibility that in the future the ban will go away if they see that people are respecting the rules again, but I don't see that happening the way that the culture is right now. Everyone wants to take a picture of everything everybody. Look, I want to take a picture of this bill. Check this out. Look at this beautiful building here. Do you see that now? If a thousand people were here to take a picture of that building and was really loud will probably lose the right to be in this neighborhood. Probably have security guards and stuff around. I love that. I really love love love this neighborhood.
00:45:03 John Daub: All right, last question. No, no photos means no cameras. That means no smartphones. Don't take pictures of geisha. Don't get pictures of maiko. Don't take pictures in the neighborhood. If there's a sign saying don't take pictures. I remember being in the Sistine Chapel and there was a sign that said no pictures and actually it was Japanese that were taking pictures. All right, this is back in 1990. I remember when I was six. I remember everyone was just snapping away with flash in the Sistine Chapel and I was upset. I said why were you taking pictures? They're telling you not to take pictures, but you feel like you have to take the pictures anyways. So this is a worldwide thing and I don't think it's going to stop and I believe that they have to do something like this and it might be strict. It might be going overboard. But what are the what else can they do before the Tokyo Olympics? Before tourism? Even skyrocket more. It has to be very well driven into people's heads. Do not go crazy with your selfie photos with maiko and geisha and people and normal citizens that are traditional and different than you. Everybody wants to have a picture of the geisha the maiko because they're different. They're unique. I understand that it's traditional Japanese culture. But if we if we abuse it that culture might disappear because it's just a pain in the neck, right? I feel bad for the people. Tokyo and 2020 Olympics comes. I don't I don't know Tokyo is very elastic City. This is a place where everybody comes from somewhere else. Pretty much this a doko which are the people born here for several generations and then they're like everybody comes to University in Tokyo. Many people stay a lot of the my Japanese friends. They come from Aomori. They come from Fukushima. They coming from Tottori Prefecture from Kyushu. They just decided to stay here because the work is better. So this city is more elastic people in Kyoto are from Kyoto. They're born in Kyoto. They have like centuries of tradition in this city and their rules were there before before the tourist boom and the tourist bust and whatever happens. They're going to preserve their city and they're going to be extremely strict about it. My voice is cracking because I have a cold and I might be exaggerating it a little bit. A little bit.
00:47:32 John Daub: MRI mi are mi mi are hi John. My guest camera band will be like cycling on the footpath. Yeah, not technically allowed but you'll be okay. If you're very respectful that I think that that's probably going to be the answer. You have to have extremely strict rules and then people will tend to respect that and I think over time the rules will lessen and weaken Vaughn. Thank you. That's a great. I'm going to use David. Kimura's money to go get some soup at the cafe over there after this. But if people are respectful, you could probably get away with stuff. All right, and if they say no and you say, oh, I'm very sorry. It's okay. But on Japanese TV news, this is all right. I want to give you before before I leave. I want to give you the thousand people watching right now. Just one piece of information on how the Japanese see how foreigners react. To rules. Okay drones. There was a couple on Mount Fuji that was flying a drone on the peak of Mount Fuji. Everyone's watching the beautiful sunrise. You can take pictures of it and then out of nowhere comes a drone right in the front of everyone's cameras and pictures like this. No permission to do this on the top of Mount Fuji. Just crazy. The air is very thin there. It's kind of dangerous to begin with. So a guy. For a Ranger asked them not to fly their drone before and they said, okay, they flew the drone again and he said and the Ranger caught them and said don't fly their drone anymore and he got very very strict about it and got angry and they said, okay, you know what they did. They flew their drone again when they were going down. And the Ranger came up to them and like he completely lost it, but there was no way for him to enforce them. He couldn't take. Passport or arrest them. All he can do is say don't do it and this made Japanese national TV and this made a lot of people upset these people vote and make laws and when you see that you can tell foreign tourists, even though it was just them and they're wrong and they're not a good representative of us the good people. It's still representative of us. And this is why it's very important when you see a tourist doing something wrong. People might say mind your own business, but it's my business if they change the laws and the way Japan sees us because I may be a foreign resident here for a very long time. The way people act here is also representative of me as an outsider and I I know Kevin and Peter and all my friends Jennifer if we see somebody doing something wrong, we'll probably let you know and it is our business because we live here. We don't want to see that anything get ruined. And the law is changing and this is very important. And it's just people have their own laws and rights in their own country. That's not Japan. We have our we have a special law set of laws. Kyoto has a special set of laws, which is right here. And you can see this link in the description. Called Aki Manners and it tells you how to act in Kyoto. It is a book published by the Kyoto tourism organization and it's really good to know and it's just the picture on the top says it the locals are not happy with the way that people just don't respect their laws and the rules and behave and would you i don't know just tourists are cool but not when they're you know just disrupting everyday life what do you think leave me a comment in the description below follow common sense if if it seems like you it's not respectful don't do it if your Instagram if you only have I don't know like that's good to be popular on Instagram because I use Instagram only in Japan TV follow me if you want to be in it like you need to get really cool photos but you cannot be rude to get those photos and you have to do them I believe in an ethical way and we're all guided by these rules we were in the past and that doesn't mean that it changes for you what Logan Paul or Paul Logan I always get it mixed up because his first name sounds like a last name and last name sounds like a first name I know he's apologized and I'm not going to be really hard on on the guy anymore because it's ancient history but what happened is still going on today and what he did still has left such a negative feeling of foreign tourists and YouTubers so he did a lot to really damage YouTuber creators that were living here including me and other creators because of the way because of the way he was acted here in Japan he had a very very I don't know Japanese didn't like him for obvious reasons if you saw the videos so you can completely understand completely understand why that happened you can understand why we're not happy with him and why the reaction from yet Japanese youtubers living in Japan the reaction is still so unboxed and I had a real hard time You, guys, was very, very harsh. See that, Mr. Paul, Logan, they're coming to get you. I hope everyone's okay. There you go. Yeah, Logan Paul was a deep, can I say that? He did not respect Japan and he did it to get views and that culture, in a way, I'm glad that he did that, in a way, one very small way, because it gave us, it exposed this culture that we have to do anything we can to get a view. And if you've been watching this series for a long time, you know that I don't do that. I do it for a good story, all right? And I know like if I show a 500 kilogram firework and being put into a cannon, it's gonna go viral, but I got permission to film that and I didn't have to jump over somebody's rights in order to do that. Oh, that's where we are on the map, guys. This is Tsukuda. And if you go straight, you go to Tokyo Station. Highly, highly. Highly recommend walking around, not here, but in here where this red bridge is called Tsukuda Kobashi. Beautiful, beautiful area.
00:54:22 John Daub: Last question, because I gotta walk back to the station this way, just keep going. Last question here. Carry your passport always. You should have a copy of your passport if you're getting a visa for another country or carry your passport always in Japan. If you get checked by the police, I got asked about my passport when I was walking. Konnichiwa. Oh, YouTuber? Ah, YouTuber. Why? Why? I was really surprised. They're happy because I'm a YouTuber. All right. Funny, what a nice neighborhood. Again, like there's no tourists here, so people live here. You have to be respectful. I forgot what I was talking about. Logan Paul writes in here, I won't be able to walk in here. I won't do it again, sorry. Thanks for the Australian dollars, mate. It's hard to expose. But I know, it's okay, Logan. As I said, I'm not angry anymore. I'm not angry anymore. Oh, about the passport. Yeah, I was walking past the Chinese embassy and I didn't even know it. And a police officer stopped me and asked me for identification. And I actually had my passport because I was looking for the entrance to the Chinese embassy. So I showed it to him and told him I was looking for the embassy, for the Chinese embassy. And he told me where it was. And, but I was asked for my passport. I was riding a bicycle and a police stopped me and they were checking for stolen bicycles. And they asked me for my ID. And we have a, at the time, we called them a zairyu card (residence card) which is a foreign residence registration card. I had to show him that and my address. And he was okay. He let me go. He checked that, checked it out. But you need to have your ID with you, because there are, security checks. There are foreigners who overstay their visas and just stuff like that. It's good to have your ID with you in Japan. Yeah. Chris Hansen retracting a message. Why am I not surprised? Three of it. Logan, 10 bucks is not enough. I'm reading the live stream. I do appreciate, whoever that was, thanks for making our day a little bit brighter. It is a very nice bridge here. Again, one of my favorite neighborhoods to just take a walk around. I'll do a live stream. I'll be back on this with the history of this area again in the very, very near future. Yeah. You know, and the alleyways here are really, really scenic and pretty. These are called nagaya. They're a throwback to Japanese. No, I wouldn't say a throwback, but they're like post-World War II wooden houses. And they're not the best insulated houses. I actually almost moved into one. I actually almost moved into one several years ago, but, the rent is a little bit high over in this area.
00:57:33 John Daub: So I think what we've learned here and their takeaway is be really respectful of the laws, respectful of each neighborhood. And no, after 10 PM, you shouldn't be making a lot of loud noises. If you go out and drink, okay, we got it. But if you're with your friends, be pretty. Just remember, you're not the only one in the area. Be reactive to the people around you, right? We have this one expression, and this is the thing that I live by. And anybody who's watching this, foreign residents in Tokyo or anywhere in Japan, will understand this very, very well. There's an expression called kuuki wo yomu (read the air). And this essentially means that you read the air. You can look around you. You can see the people around you and get the feeling from the air around you that you're doing something wrong. This is not right. You need to change. And this is a very important thing. And I got this by living here for a long time. I now can read the air. And I know when I should do something. And I know just by, because I'm no longer thinking about myself, I'm thinking about the people around me. And in Japan, we're not just thinking about the self. We're not thinking about ourselves. We're thinking about the people around us. And that's why we don't have these problems like canceling jobs, without canceling a reservation like five minutes before. We don't do that because we are thinking about other people more than ourselves. We don't take pictures of people without permission because we're thinking about them, not about ourselves, what we need. This is very ingrained in Japanese culture. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And something that we have to really respect. If you come to Japan as a tourist, maybe there's things that you want. I understand that. And you come here to give your tourist dollars, your tourist yen. I understand that. Japan appreciates that. But also, we want to make sure that the people here are going to stay very gracious hosts and be really kind. And that requires, on your part, to be able to read the air around you and think about the other people to fit into society. You might only be here for a week, but what you do might stay here for a generation. Again, Logan Paul, thanks for the super chat. I'm not picking on you specifically. Respect. It's all about respect, right?
01:00:06 John Daub: Alright, guys. Have a good day. Have a good night. I hope this was informational for you. We've got an entire month. Hit that subscribe button. If you like these live streams, make sure the notification bell is on always. And once again, the Patreon supporters get notifications as well. And our notification systems are not perfect in Japan. We're not going to be able to get them on YouTube, so we find other ways. Instagram as well will help guide you here. And the like button always is appreciated. It's a small price to pay. I sometimes hold viewers' ransom for likes to do things. It's my way. It's my rules. This is our live stream, though. Thanks, everybody. Have a good day. Have a good night. David, thank you for the super chat. I'm going to go get some soup over there. Behave yourselves in Kyoto. Love you, too. Look at the super chat. I love you, too, guys. Bye-bye. Happy Diwali.