Why I Avoid Shibuya HALLOWEEN
Why I Avoid Shibuya HALLOWEEN
Overview
In this live stream episode, John Daub stands in the heart of Shibuya on October 29, 2022, explaining why he personally avoids the famous Shibuya Halloween festivities. Despite being surrounded by the buzz of the event, John provides a historical deep dive into how Halloween evolved in Japan, tracing its roots from Tokyo Disneyland and expat bars in Roppongi to the massive, organized crowds at the Shibuya Scramble Crossing today.
John discusses the darker side of the event, citing the vandalism, overcrowding, and property damage that peaked around 2019, which led to stricter police presence and rules banning alcohol consumption on the streets. He interacts with his live stream audience, answering questions about signal quality, tourism recovery post-pandemic, and cultural observations about generations in Japan.
Throughout the walk, John highlights specific landmarks like Center Gai, Shibuya 109, and Don Quijote, while sharing personal anecdotes about living in Japan for 25 years. He emphasizes that while Shibuya is a must-visit for tourists to form their own opinions, he prefers to avoid the chaos, dirt, and lack of authentic cultural connection during Halloween week.
Highlights
- 00:02 John's Stance: John opens by admitting he tries hard to avoid Shibuya, especially during Halloween.
- 02:18 2019 Chaos: Recalls the disaster zone of Halloween 2019 with people jumping on cars and graffiti.
- 03:42 Disney's Influence: Credits Disney for introducing Halloween culture to Japan in the 1990s.
- 06:47 Yamanote Halloween Party: Describes the lore of foreigners taking over train cars in the early 2000s.
- 10:17 No Official Events: Notes that despite being organized, there are no actual performances, just crowds.
- 12:34 Police Presence: Observes increased police security expecting a crazy night.
- 15:45 Tourist Advice: Recommends tourists visit Shibuya once to make up their own minds despite his personal avoidance.
- 23:29 Halloween History Recap: Summarizes the trickle-down from Disney to marketing to mainstream culture.
- 28:30 Official Rules: Mentions specific rules written in reaction to past debauchery and vandalism.
- 37:14 Alcohol Ban: Explains the strict ban on drinking alcohol on the streets during the event.
- 40:39 Foreigner Responsibility: Notes that foreigners often get blamed for messing up the event.
- 43:38 Signal Struggles: Ends near the crossing complaining about the poor mobile signal in Shibuya.
Timeline / Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction to Shibuya Halloween
- 02:00 History of Shibuya Halloween (2015-2019)
- 04:00 Disney and Cosplay Origins
- 06:00 Roppongi and Yamanote Line Parties
- 10:00 Walking Center Gai and Signal Issues
- 15:00 Tourist Perspectives vs. Resident Reality
- 20:00 5G vs. 4G Network Performance
- 25:00 World Cup and New Year's at Hachiko
- 30:00 Community Chat and Controversies
- 35:00 Burger King Peanut Butter Burger
- 37:00 Alcohol Rules and Future of Halloween
- 40:00 Final Thoughts and Sign Off
Japan Travel Tips
- Avoid Shibuya Halloween if you dislike crowds: John advises that the event is chaotic, dirty, and often involves vandalism.
- Alcohol is banned on streets: During Halloween events in Shibuya, drinking alcohol on the street is prohibited and enforced by police.
- Expect heavy police presence: Security is tightened significantly during Halloween weekends to prevent property damage.
- Visit during the day: John notes that daytime is less crowded than night, though still busy on weekends.
- Signal quality is poor: Mobile data (4G/5G) often struggles in Shibuya due to congestion; expect streaming issues.
- Make your own mind: John recommends tourists visit Shibuya once to experience the vibrance, even if locals avoid it.
- Respect public spaces: Littering and urination are major issues cited; travelers should be mindful of cleanliness.
Japanese Language & Culture Notes
- Halloween in Japan: Unlike the US, Halloween here is not traditionally about trick-or-treating for kids but rather cosplay and parties for adults, popularized by Disney in the 1990s.
- Cosplay Culture: Rooted in manga and anime boom of the 1990s, blending with Western Halloween traditions.
- Drinking Rules: Generally, drinking on streets is tolerated in Japan if responsible, but specific events like Shibuya Halloween ban it due to past misconduct.
- Scramble Crossing: The Hachiko Scramble has become a gathering spot for major events (World Cup, New Year's, Halloween), replacing older spots like Shiba Park.
- Generational Views: John touches on the universal tension where older generations view younger generations as problematic ("Satan"), a common cultural sentiment in Japan regarding population aging.
Food & Drink Guide
- Peanut Butter Burger: Available at Burger King Shibuya during the stream period (until November 17th). John describes it as a "very sweet burger" with bacon smoked bacon peanut butter. 35:54
- Plant-Based Ice Cream: Mentioned briefly near the end of the stream. 42:55
- Beer: Generally available in vending machines, but banned on streets during Halloween events in Shibuya. 37:14
People
- John Daub: Host and narrator. Provides historical context and personal opinions on Shibuya Halloween.
- Kanae Daub: Mentioned by John ("Kanae would kill me") as a reason not to return at night.
- Leo: John's son, mentioned in context of growing older and potentially enjoying Halloween later.
- Live Stream Viewers: Various chat participants (Anthony, Ann Rudugan, Brandania, Michael Sassano, etc.) interact with John throughout the stream.
- Toby (crow): Mentioned indirectly ("Toby's friend Somebody named that pigeon"), referencing John's habit of naming crows Toby.
Key Takeaways
- Shibuya Halloween is a relatively new phenomenon (circa 2015-2016), driven by tourism and local youth culture.
- The event has a history of vandalism and disorder (especially 2019), leading to strict rules and alcohol bans.
- Disney played a pivotal role in introducing Halloween culture to Japan in the 1990s.
- John prefers avoiding Shibuya due to crowds, dirt, and lack of authentic cultural connection, but acknowledges tourists should visit once.
- Mobile signal quality in Shibuya is notoriously poor during high-traffic events.
Notable Quotes
- 00:24 "Everybody knows that I don't particularly like Shibuya."
- 02:18 "It was a disaster zone and it was like this every year."
- 03:42 "We can thank Disney for Halloween the way we know it in Japan."
- 15:45 "I always tell people that you should come here to Shibuya... and make up your own mind."
- 28:30 "It's really about the money."
- 37:14 "Alcohol drinking it on the streets is banned. Don't try there's police everywhere."
- 40:39 "It's mostly because the foreigners at the Shibuya Halloween messed it up."
Related Topics
- Shibuya Scramble Crossing Guide
- Halloween in Tokyo History
- Tourism Ethics in Japan
- Cosplay Culture in Akihabara
- Drinking Rules in Japan Public Spaces
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Full Transcript
00:02 John Daub: Hello everybody, welcome to Shibuya. This is where they have most of the Halloween events just down this street. In this episode, I'm going to talk a little bit about the history of Halloween here in Japan that I know of because I've been here for 25 years. Maybe you'll learn something. How you doing everybody? Everybody knows that I don't particularly like Shibuya.
00:24 John Daub: Over the course of the last couple of weeks, again this is a live stream, I've been here in Shibuya talking about Shibuya. It's hard to avoid this place and yet I really try hard to avoid it. I've been to the Shibuya Halloween before in passing. Before it became a thing. And the history of Shibuya's Halloween is not something that goes back eons. It's actually quite new. Maybe less than 10 years. I believe it was around 2015, 2016 that the city of Shibuya, which is its own ward, decided to put together an official Halloween. And last night it sort of took place. I guess it's going to take place again tonight. It's the 29th. But I'm not going to come. Of course I'm not going to come because this is one of these things that I just avoided.
01:10 John Daub: Yes, I'm in Shibuya for you pesos so you can take creepy shots of me crossing the street because it's Halloween and that's okay to do. Haha. He showed some pictures on the Discord server of me crossing the street last time. So in this episode, I'm going to take you around this area. This is where signal is quite good. At least it said it did. And talk a little bit about Halloween. And if you have any questions, you can leave them in the comments below. I'm glad that you're here. Right now it's a Saturday in Shibuya. It's quite loud and there's a lot of people, which is expected. I haven't been to Shibuya except during the pandemic when there weren't people. And just looking around and getting a feeling of it all, you can tell that the vibe of Shibuya is back. There's just more buzz on the streets here. It is a Saturday. You can feel it. And the news media is here as well taking video of the festivities that are going to be taking place tonight.
02:18 John Daub: But why do I particularly not like these Halloween events? Well, that's easy. I don't really like crowded places. Especially in 2019, the Halloween was so out of control. I think there were foreigners on top of, or were they Japanese? I don't remember. But the image that most locals remember were people on top of the cars. They were jumping up and down on top of cars, damaging property, graffiti. There was a lot of urination, a lot of litter on the streets. It was a disaster zone and it was like this every year. But the city of Shibuya knows it. This is also a boon for the economy of this region, which is why they thought with police help, they could make this event safer and cleaner and maybe more organized. But in 2019, we saw that that was not the case. Over the pandemic, of course, there wasn't really much going on here. And then in 2022, again, tourism returns and we're starting to see what Shibuya Halloween is sort of all about. What is that? It's pretty much foreign tourists. And residents that have been here for like a couple of years, not usually long term residents, mingling with Japanese that are younger that are into Halloween.
03:42 John Daub: But Halloween doesn't really have much of a history here. We can thank Disney for Halloween the way we know it in Japan. Thanks a lot, Disney. Really, it's one of those holidays where I didn't really care too much about. I mean, in the US, I like trick or treating. It's a school thing for the kids, just like Christmas, more or less. But here, it's not. So, here, combined with the culture of cosplay, which was starting to boom through manga and anime in the 1990s. Cosplay wasn't a thing until about 1990, I'm guessing. With young people's desire to mingle with foreigners, because during the 2010 World Cup, Japan did quite well. And they went pretty deep into it. And on Shibuya's Hachiko Scramble, the image of all of these people hanging out in front of Hachiko Scramble, watching Japan play the World Cup and high-fiving. Some people came in costumes. So, it was around 2010 that the idea to have Shibuya Halloween started to take place.
04:45 John Daub: But before that, and I had gone out all around Tokyo on Halloween, we would do our festivities in Roppongi. Because that was where all the foreigners were, and Halloween was a foreign holiday. You'd see more costumes at Roppongi and Roppongi bars, and the clubs there would have events going on. I'm standing in this one spot in particular because the signal's better. And it's loud and you can feel it. Where is this? I'm 20 minutes away, writes Anthony. Welcome, Anthony. And Ann Rudugan writes in here, get a recovery beverage to relieve your stress. Thanks. I'm just recovering from a cold. I'm at the end of it. I feel a lot better. Thanks for asking. Hey, Brandania's here.
05:32 John Daub: Alright, so the history of Halloween here. When I came to Japan in 1998. The only time we saw Halloween was at Tokyo Disneyland and DisneySea. And at English schools where you would teach children about foreign cultures which included Halloween. You really didn't see Halloween that much. It wasn't a thing. And at Roppongi. Because foreigners would dress up and go to the bars. That's always been going on. Then around 2013 when the boom of tourism started. 2014, 15. Again, there weren't that many tourists after the tsunami and earthquake in 2011. It was dead for a few years after that. Fears of radiation and all this other stuff in the news. So Japan didn't have a very good image. 2015, 2016, tourists started to boom and come here. 2017, 2018, right before the Olympics. There's so much push for Japan's tourism. During this time from 2015 to 2022, the Shibuya Halloween became a thing. So it is new. As far as I know, with my, before that again, we would go to Roppongi.
06:47 John Daub: And there was this thing called the Yamanote Halloween Party. Where in one of the publications, I think it was Tokyo Weekender or something. Somebody would put cryptically the location of a car on the Yamanote line in a time and a platform. And all these foreigners would show up and take over a car on the Yamanote line. I didn't actually partake in this. But I saw it. And it was rude and crazy. And it became a thing of lore. And it left a really bad image of westerners. In particular, westerners here in Japan of doing stupid crazy things during Halloween. That's why I think that reputation going all the way back to like 2000. Why it tracked over and went into Halloween here. I'm not sure. But I guess the city of Shibuya found a way to make it work. The music is coming from these speakers. They line the street called Center Gai (Center Street) or Basketball Street. And you can't escape the music. You gotta dance when you're here.
08:03 John Daub: I always try to avoid the Halloween here. It's just craziness. And I'm too old for it. Maybe that's a thing. Maybe when Leo gets older, I'll get excited about it. But dressing up in a Halloween costume on a special day. I don't feel the need anymore. But that's just me. Maybe you're different. And I completely understand that. If you come to Japan though and you're making dressing up on Halloween a thing. You know, I don't get it. But like you could do that in your own country, right? Aren't the parties in America better than the ones here in Japan? Maybe you can leave me a comment below. Prove me wrong. Why is the Halloween here in Shibuya worth going to? What makes it such a big deal? What makes it so special? Is it the cosplay? Is it the girls? Is it the guys? I don't know. The fact that they wear almost no clothing. It's more or less like a bikini party with the temperatures in the lower 50s. Sometimes colder. I don't get it.
09:07 John Daub: So I know that this signal is not going to be great if I walk around too much. Because I found this really nice spot here. The conditions here in Japan at the moment. Very much back to a certain level. Like it feels like 2019 but not as crowded because tourism from China is not here yet. So we don't have that buzz. But again, it's interesting because we see a mix of people not wearing masks and people wearing masks. And I do it when I'm outside. It's questionable. But when I go into crowded spaces, I just flip it back up. So I know there's always going to be questions about that. But, you know. If you've been vaccinated three or four times, what more can you do? I don't know. Alright. Let's walk down the street. I can't go that far because I know that the signal is going to die out. And we're going to go to the Hachiko Scramble. And I'll talk a little bit more about this.
10:17 John Daub: But I'm going to look at the live stream and let you uninterrupted enjoy the Minecraft quality of this alley. It's got to be bad. Yeah, this area has changed a lot. I've already brought you through here just last week. So I don't want to redo everything. It looks like over there they got something going on. Check it out. There's some sort of dancing going on over there. And no, I'm not going to go over there and find out. I could care less. The Shibuya Halloween, again, is an organized event by the city now. But there are no actual events to it. That's something important to realize. There's no, like, idol performance. Nothing to attract people to come here other than just meeting a bunch of other people. But one of the things that I think is really cool. I think people love about Shibuya is that vibrance to it. The colors, the excitement. It is a young town. It's also a dirty town. And another reason why I don't come here, if I didn't mention it, was it just gets so dirty. And I feel bad about that. And I don't think that I want to be a part of that because I live here. And it makes me feel bad to see the next day how nasty this town is because of those parties. I think 2019 really did a number on me. Seeing all the damage. And I didn't think that they would bring that back.
11:36 John Daub: How's the quality of the livestream now? Hey, Michael Sassano! How you doing, buddy? I heard that you just met up with Brandania. Aloha, guys. That is so awesome. We have an amazing community from Hawaii here. And it's just wonderful to see you guys hanging out. Thanks for letting me know about that. That makes me really happy. Yeah. I want to see pictures. Show me some pictures. Oh, my gosh. That's so exciting. We're going to... No one's found me yet. But probably do another meetup sometime in November. A lot of other YouTubers that are visiting Japan got in touch with me. And we're going to see... Maybe there'll be some collaborations. But, you know, I'm pretty excited about the direction of Japan now that it has opened up to 68 countries and growing. Things are going to start happening. This is all positive stuff.
12:34 John Daub: Alright. So I've noticed that there is an increased police presence during the Halloween time. And that includes today because we expect tonight to be kind of crazy. Hey, Bradshaw Studios in the house, too. Nice to see everyone's here. I know it's going to get worse. I'm taking you to the Shibuya Hachiko Scramble. If you want to see Hachiko Scramble, click the like button right now. Just do it. See if we get to 300 likes so I can celebrate. On the weekend, Shibuya... You know, on the weekdays before the pandemic, Shibuya was quite crowded every day because of tourism. It's just one of those places. The first guidebook that I got about going to Japan was in 1996, I think. 1997. Because my roommate was a Japanophile kind of a... I don't know. Should I say like a real loser? I don't know. I don't want to say that. But he thought he was Japanese, but he was like this white Irish dude. Well, Irish as said. And really his dream was to go and live in Japan. Live in a tatami room. At Ohio State, he slept on the floor on a futon. He would read Playboy, but only the Japanese Playboy. You know what I'm saying? So I never really understood him. But I got to read his Lonely Planet and guides about Japan and learned a lot about it. And one of the most fascinating places back then was Shibuya. Where everyone said it was like Times Square, but hyperactive. Like I couldn't fathom that. And Shibuya was always sort of a mystery to me. Until I moved here to Japan. Came here and I was like, wow, this place is pretty hyperactively awesome. The details, the colors, everything. Just as exciting to me. But it wore off pretty quick.
14:28 John Daub: Let's cross the street here. We're right underneath 109. Put my mask back on. We're getting to a crowd. As you can see during the day, not too many cosplay costumes. But we're going to cross the street at the next signal, next light. And I'll take you to there. And my video went from good to bad. Alright, I'm crossing the street. I'm going back to where I came. It's still a green light. Alright, I got, I ran back to where I was at. I heard it got really bad. How did it go from bad to worse? Alright, I get the picture. Obviously, you don't get the picture. But I get it. It can't be better over there. Because this is the most crowded that it's been. Yeah, it's a scramble in Minecraft quality. But if I stand on top of this here. See if we can get a slightly. It's better. Alright, Ryan, thank you. You get a slightly elevated picture. We're about to see the crossing right now.
15:45 John Daub: But what is really amazing about Shibuya is that vibrance. But I also don't like it. Because it's just too crowded. It's too dirty. It's like in your face. And that excitement, I guess if you live here. And this is the difference. When people ask me about, what is Shibuya? Where's your favorite? Where should I stay? What's the best area to visit? I'm not a tourist. I've been living here in Tokyo. In Japan for almost 25 years. But in Tokyo since 2004. So I don't go to hotels. And I don't see things the same way. But I always tell people that you should come here to Shibuya. You should come to Takeshita Dori in Harajuku. You should go to Asakusa. You should visit these places. And make up your own mind. And that's why when someone asks me for a travel itinerary. I never give one. I'm hesitant. Because I know that you're going to. Everybody has their own way to see the country. And you should do your own research. And maybe asking me is part of it. But I try to avoid this place.
16:40 John Daub: How you doing sky blue hippie? Welcome. Chad writes in here, we're in 72P. Is that true? Right now in 72P you'll see a bunch of dots moving. Is that true? Can someone confirm the dot movages? It's still blurry. Alright. Am I blurry? Is that an improvement? If I go to the Hachiko scramble it's a loss. It's not even worth it. So I'm going to move back to where the. I'm going to where people are moving. That's all you can see. I'm going to move back to where the signal is good. Up the hill. Let's go back to the good signal. That's why I started the live stream there. Hey Leonardo from Iowa. I'm very sorry that my Buckeyes destroyed your team. Last week. But it's all for a good cause. The national championship. It looks bad on rollerblazers 4K TV.
17:58 John Daub: Alright. It's going to get better. I know a spot. Which is basically where I just was. Wow. Let's see what Baskin Robbins has going on here. Oh wow. They really do have 32 flavors. Is it 31? I don't know. Arisu FD. It's a fire department. Sorry to miss you buddy. I do have some You Found Me cards. The oldest area in Tokyo. What do you mean in terms of. That's a pretty interesting question. The oldest area that survived World War II's bombing. Fire bombing. Do you mean? The most historic area? Because that's why Tokyo doesn't look like Kyoto. Because Kyoto was not bombed. And Tokyo was in 1945.
19:06 John Daub: Alright. It's still pixelated. Should I go to my corner here? How is it now? Is it still bad? You know this is why we still use 720p. Because when the live stream falls apart. It doesn't look as bad. In 720p. But if the live stream falls apart in 1080p. It's really bad. Better than when you cross the street. Alright Saya. Thank you. And Saya your package is on the way. You should have gotten that notification. So exciting. Oh here's the big Don Quixote. You remember when I ate that 5. 10 yen coin. Well it's still there.
20:10 John Daub: You know it's funny. When I was in first grade. I remember the fifth graders. They look so big and old. Right? If anyone remembers that. If you're in first grade right now. Oh she's a cosplayer. She's got blue hair. All the fifth graders look so big. And they smelled weird. Because fifth graders had like BO and stuff. And we didn't. Because we were in first grade. And I remember that so vividly. Because they pretty much stunk. But then when I got to fifth grade. Those first graders looked so young. And it was the high school kids that looked older. Now that you know. I've been here for 25 years. And I look at the kids on the street. They look so young. Because maybe they are young. Look at some Mario's right there. It's weird.
21:01 John Daub: Alright so I'm going to go. Everyone says it's blurry. Yeah I think they were just strange fifth graders that hit puberty too early. I forget what their names were. But they used to beat me up. I sat in the first seat because I was younger. And these two kids were the bad kids. So they put them in the front seat or the back seat. Or the front seat. I think it was behind me. And they would always punch my head and stuff. And pick on me. Because they were bad kids. Why didn't the bus driver put them. Somewhere else. No he had to put them next to the little kids. I don't know why I just zoomed there. But I did that. Anyway you can't see it because it's blurry. Is it better?
21:55 John Daub: No. I'm using Docomo Japan. I'm using 4G LTE because the 5G. Alright. I want to get back to Halloween for a second. And wrap this up. Because it is a super interesting topic about Halloween in Japan. And I'll reiterate it because this is a live stream. And by the way. If you're watching this in playback and you're still watching. Thank you. And you don't have to because most of the information is usually in the first 15 minutes. We just keep going because it's fun. Yeah so the 5G is such a bust here. I had on that street there. It was 180 megabits per second. Which is quite fast. You can do 4K video off of that. For download speed. And for upload speed. It was a whopping 2 megabits per second. Which you can't do 720p in. You need at least like 4.5 megabits per second to really get a clean 720p. To get a clean HD you need about 20 megabits per second. And that's sometimes hard to do. So that's the 5G story. Download speeds are blazing fast. And then on the same street I hit 400 megabits per second. Which is like 8K you could probably do. No maybe not. But that's the issue. The Docomo's 5G is great for download. You could download a movie in like 5 seconds. But it stinks at uploading. It takes forever to get anything on Dropbox using 5G. And that's the biggest challenge that I think that they have. So that's why I still use 4G.
23:29 John Daub: Not a lot of costumes here. So let me reiterate for the people that are here. Thanks so much for clicking that like button. We're almost at 200. Wow. 200. I'll take that. So Halloween started in Japan probably in the 1990s. As a result of Disney. Promoting this culture. Here we got some pumpkin heads. Promoted this culture. And it started to really trickle into Japanese culture too. Marketing started picking it up because people who went to Tokyo Disneyland. Started to learn about this culture. And it was fun. So it started to show in marketing. And then other amusement parks started to pick it up. And it became one of these holidays that was fun. That brought in people to certain events and venues. That's kind of a good thing.
24:27 John Daub: So Halloween was this. And Halloween has such an advantage. Are you dressing up for Halloween? Yeah. I'm a YouTuber. I got a stick in my hand. And I'm walking around the town. If someone says am I filming? No. This is Halloween. This is a prop. I like this angle. Looking straight down towards Hachiko. Maybe the signal could be slightly better. Yeah. So the 1990s thanks to Disney brought Halloween into the more of the mainstream. And anime and manga, the cosplay culture was also starting to boom in the 1990s as well. And then once the noughties came, the 2000s, then we started to see more of this. In particular, again, Roppongi was the area where you'd go for Halloween because that was known as where all the foreigners went. There was a lot of expat bars and foreigners who, especially expats, English teachers, they would all swarm from all of the prefectures around Tokyo coming as far as Osaka sometimes really far away just to do Halloween partying. In Tokyo's Roppongi district because there were so many people, the bars had Halloween you know stuff trick or treating with shots. It was an adult thing because you know kids aren't expat kids aren't really here unless they're embassy kids or something at the time.
25:39 John Daub: I'm not gonna I don't have to dress. See, that's where Mim you don't get it. I don't have to dress up like Daniel LaRusso. He is me and I am him. I have to dress up like the karate kid. Don't you get it? Whatever. Just walking around the street. I'm in a costume. So if you look at it like that, so it was in the around 2002. It was the first time I saw Shibuya's scramble being used as a place to watch the soccer matches because in 2002 Japan and Korea had the World Cup and it was pretty interesting. I was living in Toyohashi which had a very colorful interesting and very very very big Brazilian population and they were colorful because they were fun. Alright and watching the World Cup there was amazing. I didn't have to go to Tokyo and thank goodness. I think Brazil won that year but the Shibuya Hachiko was used as a gathering spot and then at New Year's it started to trickle that way as well over the years from 2000 most of the people when New Year's came like CNN they would go around the world showing where was the big event space in Tokyo for New Year's. It was not Shibuya's Hachiko. It was Shiba Park near Tokyo Tower and that's where they would ring the bell 108 times which is a very Buddhist tradition here in Japan. You'd ring the bell on the stroke of midnight 108 times and that happened at Shiba Park at the shrine there and that's where people would come together for countdown party because Tokyo Tower would light up and say Happy New Year with the LCD screen. Or whatever screen they were using back then.
27:25 John Daub: So that was the big event space and of course you can't do Halloween there but there's also the Shrine of Lost Kids which is a little scary too. You can't do it there but the history again it's all kind of rooted like why Shibuya why here. Yeah and I have to give the credit to Shibuya ward. It is a very progressive ward. It knows that this is a place that's younger. It's got people that want to try new things and the businesses here thrive on that energy. They need those young people to visit with disposable income. They need tourists to come here and take advantage of all of this. So yeah the Halloween thing was a no-brainer but I guess in 2019 we saw that even with police it's kind of a disaster. So I'm not really I think you know like why not go to Akihabara right. Why not go to one of the other places for Halloween. Why not spread it out a little bit.
28:30 John Daub: Sam from TKYO Sam. I always don't know why I always mess it up. He's has been to the party many times and his videos on the Halloween were pretty interesting. Rambalik also has really great videos going walking through there. So does Virtual Japan is a lot of really good live streamers have done it. But I'll probably never be one of those people because I'm just not interested to it because it doesn't show Japanese culture. It shows well the interesting thing of it I think would be that it shows. Yeah and there's a really great live stream YouTubers really amazing quality too. So I'm very impressed. What it shows is not it's not Japanese culture but it's the way Tokyo and Shibuya in particular has found a way to embrace. Something that comes from the outside like Halloween and sort of make it their own with some event or find a way to. I guess really is just about the money. This is how the honest with you. It's really about the money. There are official rules. And I wrote them in the description of the video and they're pretty funny because they're all the rules are right. And they all show the reactions to bad things that have happened during there including like a molestation debauchery. And what does that even mean? Graffiti Vandalism urination like the rules are specifically written as reactions to the stuff that happened, which means that stuff really happened and that's weird. That's pretty scary.
30:23 John Daub: Had to get myself some lunch so pen writes in here tkyo sam is a bad person he told a mother whose son just died that he was glad he's dead that's awful i again i don't watch i mean i don't watch his personality on the live streams and in this content but as a person i don't have any problems at all he's really kind to his friends he's really nice he's a divisive person on online and we've had talks and i'm very encouraging because i think that you know he knows japan really well and you know i always feel like if you're positive and you build a positive community positive things happen and as a positive person you know i'm cheering for everybody you know i don't think he's a bad person he might have said some stuff i don't know i have not heard all his episodes they even did an episode on me i kind of look i maybe it's done in humor i don't see maybe not in that particular example but i know that humor can be interpreted in many ways too that's why i tend to stay away from humor but we all learn from our mistakes not that i'm condoning bad things that are said and i don't judge somebody on just one thing that they said now so kanye west is another issue that's pretty like would you care to apologize no i'm not gonna apologize that's a totally different thing it's like totally different things.
32:18 John Daub: Oh man the thing is all right let me just give you while we go to the spot that has a decent signal um the thing is with kanye west or yee i've learned more about him in the last two days than i did in the last 25 years of living here in japan I didn't know who he was really. I've heard the name before. He doesn't have any influence in Japanese culture. I haven't he's not very popular here. I haven't heard his music that I know of I don't I can't even name one of his songs I Didn't know you know He was even working with Adidas and all this other stuff because I'm not into that looking at a shoe store so when I The only thing I know about him is when because I don't particularly watch entertainment news in the US only time I heard about him was when this all hit the fan and you read about what's happening and how it's like I don't know if you said that and if I said that in Japan Just I'd be even worse here Japan loves to come America loves a comeback story So maybe but I don't see how anybody comes back from that. I don't know Sure, the signal should be good here Kanye is not in the news here. Nobody really cares about Kanye West He heard in Japan. I'll be honest with you. We've got a bunch of other more interesting stories going on here one of them is Halloween which Usually makes if Halloween and Shibuya makes the news. It's usually for bad reasons.
34:02 John Daub: Seabird just writes in here I see I think I see one of the reasons why Japan is dying of old age younger people are seen as dirty and causing Constant problems. I'm not sure I would agree with that completely No, I don't think that I could see that every Generation was every generation of older people think that the young people are Satan. Okay It's I it's always been like that Right. It's it's always been like that every younger every young older generation thinks that the younger generation is not that good And so I think in the end Time changes generations change. I have no idea what the next 15 years will look like for Japan But the population is going to continue to go down and it's just whether or not the younger people can step up in leadership roles and You know make Japan into the country that you know to reach its full potential again Yeah, there's no appropriate age to come to Shibuya. It's an attraction. It's a part of the city people live here people work here This is where the media has a lot of offices So in the morning, you'll see a lot of business people going to work, especially in the larger places here, so it's just really interesting how how this uh, City has evolved and I did a live stream on this just a couple of days ago So you can go and check that out. I was in particular looking at the infrastructure.
35:54 John Daub: Yeah, there is a Burger King here. Hold on. They used to have a all-you-can-eat thing going on Because it's hard for them. Oh my gosh, really? Would you try this the peanut butter burger? Is this in the US too? What? What is this in the US as well? This is a Very sweet burger and these are bacon Bacon smoked bacon peanut butter that could be good. Maybe I don't know but I Don't know. I don't know I'm getting out of here By the way, these are on sale until November 17th. If you want to try the Burger King peanut butter Oh my gosh, let me get out of here. I can smell the peanut butter burgers No, I'm not gonna try them Not right now. Anyways Matt would eat that he wrote in here Matt would said I will eat that Yeah, it's it's never gonna be a good signal here in Shibuya well even for a little bit I'm kind of glad that we could share this time. I'm glad that we could talk about the history of it.
37:14 John Daub: So where I'll end with this here Where does Shibuya's Halloween parties go from here? What does 2023 look like? I think they're gonna try to do it again next year, but keep in mind that alcohol is banned Alright, there's no actual drinking on the streets here Despite the fact that you think that there are beer vending machines in Japan You can get a beer and drink on the streets You cannot do that in Shibuya at the Halloween party alcohol drinking it on the streets is banned. Don't try there's police everywhere I guess you could try but you could get in some deep duty. All right There's no alcohol in not at the Halloween party and they'll be perfectly honest with you The reason that we have alcohol on this and you could drink it on the streets is because people are pretty responsible with it, but in 2019 some DB Jumped on a car and was and there's a lot of destruction of property Mostly done probably by foreigners that got drunk because in Japan people are pretty responsible with alcohol They just get shy they go inwards pass out and they fall on the street or something. All right That's that's if that's about it But I don't think that alcohol will ever come back but you can drink a beer on the train You can drink a beer as long as people are responsible with it But what if that one guy or one girl or somebody really messes up because of this they might even take that rule away And that would be really heartbreaking because I think we all like to have a have a beer or a drink and celebrate.
38:43 John Daub: I can't I don't know if she's it like a maid a model or Halloween So I really hope that you know If you do come and you have a beer buy from the vending machine and drink it outside that right could be taken away if people abuse it And I think that that Halloween party that's another reason why I try to avoid it It's just it's just so much damage and vandalism that happened the last time they really held it Yesterday's look like it was pretty tame But if they do it in 2013 and it's really bad again, I just feel and we're right by Center Gai This is the Main Street where the Halloween costumes usually are I just feel like this thing could really have a bad could damage some liberties that we have in Japan that Aren't in aren't the same in the West like you can't drink a beer on the street in America But you can hear in Japan and when I and we all saw hey, how you doing? And when we saw saw the damage in 2019 again, like I'm like, there's gonna be a reaction to that Toby's friend Somebody named that pigeon. Yeah, let's just hope that the future of this Halloween event stays because I think it is a good thing for for tourists and for locals, I guess but I'm gonna avoid it because it's not me and I could I don't care anymore Halloween yeah, it's not really a real thing here. It's made up because I'm old-school Maybe I came here 25 years ago. It's not really a thing for me, but it's it's unique and it's nice to see what the costumes are I guess and I could see the advantages and disadvantages, but it's just not for me.
40:39 John Daub: Alright, everybody It's mostly because the foreigners at the Shibuya Halloween messed it up. I wouldn't completely blame the foreigners, but they didn't help sometimes So there's that Wow, those dresses are tight. How do they breathe in that? my gosh I'm having trouble breathing in my fleece vest All right, I get I get no more for you I think I went over the history if you want to share your history of the Halloween party leave a comment below share your pictures on the discord server because we have a Lot of people that are sharing now that tourism has has started up again So check out discord only in Japan discord page You looking at the live stream the link will be provided by the moderators there It is a lot of fun and it's great to talk about Japan, especially travel tips and things like that It's a positive force on discord the Internet Bye everybody Thanks, Jim for sharing the link. I'll walk this way towards Shibuya station and not say a word if you like it Click that like button encourage me Encourage me to do bad things I'd never do just ignore you like eat peanut butter burgers Can't believe that's a thing Peanut butter burgers. What's all what's that all about? Oh, I said I was gonna be silent But I'm talking because it's copyrighted music. Is that Kanye West? Like I don't know who I don't know I've never heard any Kanye West songs. Is that Kanye West? I don't you think they would plays music in Japan Not realizing what the international news is like. I don't Don't know.
42:55 John Daub: What's a plant-based ice cream why Plant-based ice cream same as peanut butter ice cream Some Ikea or Ikea No name rights in here. Are you going back at night? Did you see the title of the live stream? Did you see the picture of people climbing up on each other, causing damage and destruction? I'm not coming back here. Kanai would kill me. You went to Shibuya Halloween? You didn't take me? Sounds like Mickey Mouse.
43:38 John Daub: All right, we're getting close to the crossing. I'm doing this to end because I know that it's going to be a really bad quality signal. Because always is. Because Shibuya is like a death pit for 4G, LTE, and 5G alike. You need some sort of... You have to bring your own radar to collect any kind of decent signal here. You have to get a signal from Shibuya Stream or something. But if you happen to see this 720p quality video... Hey, kudos! Hey, there's some Halloween people. Is that Mega Man? Well, if you can see the quality of the video, then that is Mega Man. My God, Mega Man's got some names. Nasty underwear. My God, Mega Man's underwear is nasty. That's like his real underwear he's wearing on the outside. Oh my gosh. All right, Peso, here's your chance. Peso, I'm running out now. Do you see me, Peso? Peso? I'm going to raise my hand up here. Right here. All right. Did you get that, Peso? No? Did you get that? The stalker camera? I wanted to go this way. Oh, by the way, Shirley in Connecticut and Travis in Hawaii... card blur. And Mount Fuji there, going at 300 kilometers per hour. Available for the next 10 days until the turn of the month. I'll send it to you. From Patreon. Thank you, guys. Bye-bye.