00:00:01 John Daub: This isn't a topic that I really wanted to discuss too much because I didn't think I would get involved with it, but I was name dropped in Alyssa's video just, I don't know, a couple of hours ago perhaps about what's going on here. And I don't think the full story is out there, so I thought I would just clarify a little bit, maybe try to find a way to find mid-ground with this stuff because whenever there's any kind of drama like this where there's two quite large creators going after one another, it's not good for Japan, it's not good for the community, it's not good for your channel, it's not good for anybody's channel really, especially these two. And I think there's some more context here than perhaps we know. Hopefully the microphone is okay. Sorry guys, this is all live. I'll plug in the mic just to make sure. This is a tough one. And I'd like to know in the comments what you guys think about this as well because it's very important that we quickly resolve this type of stuff and I don't think it should be handled publicly.

00:01:08 John Daub: The one thing that Alyssa did not write in her video, and this is between me and Chris, was that we resolved this. So I did have a disagreement with Chris. I don't think it was really any of our faults. Despite the fact that we've been doing YouTube for an extraordinary amount of time. Cyril, thank you so much. I can restart this video here. Maybe it's hard to do that. It was in 2021, I just restarted the channel. I was pretty sensitive because Chris's channel was doing really well and I was getting just so many email messages, comments. I don't even work on, do much on Twitter or X anyways. But I try to respond to everybody and try to be fair about it. But there's a lot of trolls out there and I think Chris knows this and I think we both came to an understanding and I think I did it in the best possible way. But I wish that we both had gotten there a lot quicker. We both had gotten there a lot quicker. It didn't get to this point. So our disagreement back in 2021 came from, it really started from a lot of people writing to me and trolling me and telling me stuff about Chris.

00:02:23 John Daub: Chris about how I copy from Chris. And this is absolutely not true because we're both not cookie cutter creators. We're both pretty much original. We overlap on some of the stuff that we do but we really aren't. But it's hard to turn off that noise for a lot of times. We have people that are commenting this and that and, "oh, why is your logo, you stole your logo from Abroad in Japan." Chris knows I didn't do that. I know I didn't do that but that really gets to me sometimes. And I don't even remember what I posted on Twitter or if I just liked a comment that was critical of Chris. I don't know but he saw something on Twitter, probably shared with him, because he has a lot of people watching it, and he made a comment publicly on a live stream. I saw that comment and I made a story about it. This is very much like how Alyssa and Chris are going at it right now. But it's different in the sense that this was not good enough. It wasn't good for either of us. We both very much love Japan. And I'm so much in tune with Chris in the sense that we both, 100% of our heart is filled with Japan and we hate to see stuff like this because it doesn't do anybody any good, including Japan, especially our viewers.

00:03:44 John Daub: So I reached out to Chris. I had his email. I reached out to him. I sent him a letter. I apologized. I apologized because it just got out of hand. I apologized. I apologized because it got there. I don't even… Honestly, I didn't know if it was my fault or not. But I know that he felt strongly about it and so did I. We were going to be at an impasse. Is that the word? Impasse? Unless somebody came out and we reached out and we talked about it. And I did not want any kind of bad feelings between us because it doesn't do anybody any good.

00:04:17 John Daub: One of the things in the comments that most of you that watch said to us that they'd love to see a collaboration between Chris and I. I still, even to this day, despite the fact that my channel is a dwarf compared to his, people still see that. They'd love to see a collaboration between the two of us and that would be a lot of fun maybe one day. But that situation was a really tough one but we resolved it and that's the one thing that Alyssa did not add in her explanation of it. I got an email from, I sent an email from him and Chris replied pretty quickly and we did a back and forth a couple of times. We found that, and this is the thing that's not going to surprise any of you guys, we found that we both had a lot of stuff in common. A lot more stuff in common than we had not in common. Like we both were using like the GH5 camera back then. We could talk about camera gear, we could talk about Japan, we could talk about the videos that we made, we could talk about how from 2013 to 2018 we were like neck and neck with subscriber count and was this kind of a friendly camaraderie I guess in a way where you know we were out there really trying our best and we were the two biggest Japan based YouTubers at the time along with you know Sharla and Rachel and Jun and oh there's so many of them so many really talented creators out there.

00:05:42 John Daub: I only met Chris one time and I'm sharing this picture because I'm surprised it only has 300 likes. It was from so long ago, when was that? November 2016 where we did a thanksgiving a Halloween party and I might have talked about this earlier. There's Chris on the left, I'm in the back doing Abdul Salazar from a Weblis video. I don't have Halloween costumes. There's I guess that's Rachel and Jun and our friends Martina and Simon and there's Dan the cameraman. I think Sharla is in there right? And I think that's I'm not sure what her name is. I think she moved to Hong Kong. We had a really fun time. I didn't know anybody except for Simon and Martina and I got it I talked mostly with Jun actually. It was funny. He's a very nice guy but this is a really great party because I got a chance just to talk with Chris and I think we only talked for like a couple of minutes which was way too short but probably the most memorable thing I have to take away with my one very brief meeting with Chris Broad was that he's a very friendly guy. He's a very nice guy, he's a little bit shy at least that was the take that I got in person. We're all different people off-camera really. Except me. I'm kind of the same. I've been doing this for a very long time but Chris I thought was a little bit shy. But I remember this okay. This is a cute this is a kind of a cute story from this day and I only have anything, I only have positivity you talk about here. I came into, to Kichijoji station which is Simon and Martina's and saying beneficially well. He's a real his hometown at the time, you all know that. And I didn't know who was there and I remember I came into the station, nobody was there yet, I don't think anybody was there yet, I looked up on the second floor and looking down on me was that guy that was in all those YouTube videos that had been, we had a little camaraderie at the time, it was really fun stuff, looking down on me and he had a big smile on his face, like it was just, and I think I smiled back up at him because we were probably thinking the exact same thing.

00:07:54 John Daub: And a lot of you, perhaps some of you, not a lot, are looking for drama out of this, but there really wasn't and I think in 2021 this interaction might have helped a little bit that we did know each other a little bit, but you have to clamp this stuff down, this is stuff that should be done privately because if it's done publicly, and Alyssa shared this in her YouTube video, you have a lot of the same audience and I don't think that the people really want to see it. I don't think they want to see this because I know that Alyssa, who's an extraordinarily good person, I know her actually off the camera more, I have not met her as much as I would like to, she's such a great person, Chris, I really don't know him too well, he also seems like a great person, but the three of us share something in common, an extraordinary love for Japan, an extraordinary love for the country that we call home right now. Japan has been so good to me, it's been so good to Chris and so good to Alyssa, Alyssa's husband is Japanese. Chris has been here for a very long time, he started out in the countryside of Yamagata, I believe, and Sendai, he has an extraordinary love for Tohoku, which I also champion. There's so much more that we have in common than we don't. So when these kinds of disagreements come about, I can completely understand it.

00:09:10 John Daub: When it comes to this conflict though, I really don't know who's right or wrong. I don't think that the way to do it is to... Everybody's got their own way. Everyone's going to make their own content. I'm not trying to be a Switzerland right here, but I just don't think this is something that should be aired out publicly. That's just my own opinion here. This was the comment that kind of set it out, but I think it was something in the making for quite a while, because I know that there's been some, I don't know, I don't want to say bad blood, just perhaps misunderstanding when this content was made. And in a sense... I got this comment, it was shared with me from somebody else, and I read it and I was like, oh, okay, so you're not saying Alyssa, but you're pretty much insinuating Alyssa here. I was surprised, because this isn't something that I would ever do. I would never have done this. And I can't say that it is wrong for somebody else to do it. Everybody has to make their own decisions, but I never would have done this. I thought it was kind of... But at the same time... Come on, we're here. I can... At the same time, I also agree that there is an influx of creators showing a dirty side of Japan that I would never do. But the thing is, I just don't watch this content. I don't watch it. The thing on the graffiti that Alyssa did, I didn't watch it. I saw it pop up in my feed because Alyssa is a friend of mine. I didn't watch it because I'm not interested in the homeless situation in Japan by someone who's not like a social worker or a government employee. Unless there's an interview with somebody who can find an answer to fix it, I'm not really interested in that content. I'm not interested in the graffiti in Japan. Alyssa does bring up some good points, I hear. But again, it's not the kind of content that I would watch, so I just don't watch it. But I know that a lot of you do, and that's fine. And Alyssa is free to make any content that she wants, and I completely agree that she should be able to do that. I'm not going to be publicly doing this. And I might hint to her that perhaps, you know, don't go to this area, but she's going to do whatever she wants, obviously. And I'm probably going to support her either way. Just like I would support Chris either way if he put out content that I didn't agree with publicly.

00:11:44 John Daub: Okay, that's not for me to say. This is a case where I kind of mind my own business. But Chris here, who I guess he believes he's a leader of the community, and in many ways he is. He's been here for a long time. I might have been here longer. I don't know if anyone's elected anybody to be a leader of the community. I think in the end, people are going to create the content that they want to, and people are going to have to voice their opinions on whether or not they feel it's right or not. So Chris has a right to do this. Alyssa has a right to do that. But then, this is all bad for everybody. I thought, you know, I thought I had thought this through before I even started this, and it feels like I haven't thought this through at all, because it's such a difficult topic. It's just so hard. I don't know what's going to feel for both people.

00:12:34 John Daub: The reason why I wouldn't do it publicly, I think this is a good place to start here. Illuminate Gaming. I think you're right. This isn't good. But when I look at it, I've seen Pearl just crap out smaller creators with one-tenth their subs and talk down on this. Chris maybe, but was a bit over the top here some. I think that, thank you for that very much, and thanks for your input here. I do think that experience is the best. Let me get rid of that. I don't like having that that up either. Experience is the best way to learn from this kind of stuff. And I hope this experience helps both of these creators grow because it's not making either of them look better. But the drama, maybe it helps with creators or engagement and this kind of stuff. But I know Chris is not as Japanese as I am. And I say that because I'm a very, very proud American. I love my country. But my heart is here in Japan. I've been here for like a bazillion years. You can see the white hair. I didn't start out this way. So I try to avoid conflict like the plague if I can. But this is where I agree with Chris. And it's not with Alyssa, but just in general. Like I think over the last two years, I have been quite negative and I feel like I have been in these live streams because there's a lot of things, especially with tourists coming in here, disrespect to Japanese culture that I have no control about. And it deeply hurts me because I love this country very, very much. And you guys know that. I love this country. I hate to see people dump on Japan in any way. And I am 1000% biased on this because I live here. I'm always going to be on Japan's side. And I'll look at it from a diagonal position of someone who is American. But I'm always going to have a heart for Japan. That's not the kind of content that I would make. I wouldn't show some of that stuff. I think Alyssa does it. I think she does it in the best way that she can do it. I don't think it's a negative thing. Is it clickbaity? I think we are all, we have all been guilty of that. Maybe being a little bit over the top. But the content has to deliver. The thing with clickbait is that the content has to deliver. But I totally know where Chris is coming from there because he has an extraordinary love for Japan. He does. You see it in the content that he makes. You see it when he does it. He does do leadership stuff within the city. He did interview Governor Koike, which I thought was extremely impressive. He has a voice here within the community. And how you use that voice is very important. I can't say that this is the best way to use it. But this is his choice. I do think that it needs to deescalate. But you are right there, gaming, sorry to get you, Illuminate Gaming. We have to be careful with the words that we say. And I don't know what either creator has done. Either creator has done something wrong in done specifically, but the words that we choose have to be careful.

00:15:38 John Daub: The one thing I told Alyssa, and this is the reason why I would not do this publicly. This is I think where both Chris and Alyssa should be careful and maybe legal mindset can chime in here too. He's a very good guy who knows this stuff a lot better than me. Maybe he can. Walter L. Walters, you're a good man. Your name should never popped up in their issues. Yeah, I mean, when Alyssa had a video that went up to 100 million views from zero to it was like she went from a zero to 100. I met her around the same time that this happened with Chris. That's why she knows about it. And we've talked about it a little bit. I don't think I filled in all the details with it. And I don't mind that she brought this up. Actually, I really don't mind that she brought this up. But I don't want to be in the middle of it. But I don't mind that she brought this up because I know she's probably doing it. And I think she's doing it in a good way. And it gives me a chance perhaps to bring this all to the middle. I don't know what's going to happen from it. But thank you, Walter, for that as well.

00:16:44 John Daub: Ilu Monads, I'm not a fan of either of their content. He comes off a bit too sarcastic, almighty, knowing everything. And she does a lot of clickbaity stuff, too much negativity in her content. Ilu Monads, well, you know I love you. I don't watch Chris's content because I don't want to be impacted by it for my own content. Because of what happened. And I love you. And he's a super talented creator. I just don't watch Chris's content because I don't want it to have any kind of an impact on me. Because I don't want any friction between us. That might not make any sense to you. But that might make perfect sense to Chris. But I know one thing. He's extraordinarily talented. He's extremely creative. And the disagreement that we had in 2021 was 1,000% settled. All right? I could talk more about it. I don't mind. I'm just going to keep it in this one. You have a more Japanese character than Chris. Chris is kind of European outspoken. I personally don't know. I'm not going to read too many of the comments because everybody's going to have an opinion on this stuff. I just hope that it's a positive one. Just to get back to this because I can easily be distracted, as you know, with a vending machine or something fun. I can relate to Chris because he's been here for a long time, as I have. And we both want the best. And we hate to see the underbelly being exposed. But do we have a right to expose those that expose the underbelly? I don't know. Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. I don't care. That's what happened. But I...

00:18:22 John Daub: Sup, drama? I'm going to try not to read that here. I saw on X that this is really going nuclear, guys. And today I was with my son. And I wanted to spend today not having to talk about this kind of stuff. And I guess over the last few years I haven't been doing as much content because I'm doing my very best. I'm filming a lot of stuff. It's just hard for me to edit as fast as I want to these days. But I was with my son and I was extremely happy. I saw the name drop and it hit me like a ton of bricks because I really hate to see this stuff. I really, really hate to see this stuff. I really hate to see this kind of drama. And I saw that Chris responded on X and maybe this will all get deleted. When it happened to me, I was... I don't even know if it was my fault. I didn't... And to Chris's credit, in that live stream where I think he spoke pretty harshly on the situation and made it more public. And I made it... And I was worse. I made it more public after that. So it was totally on me. And it spiraled out and it was because of... It was totally my fault. It was my fault. Chris, if you... I don't think he's going to watch this. But it was totally my fault. So it was my... It was up to me to... I don't know if this is Alyssa's fault though. I don't know who the hell's fault it is. But I got in touch with Chris. That's my responsibility. I have to be a man. I have to apologize. He took it. You know, he apologized for it spiraling out of control. I took that. Because we do... We can do more good stuff together than we can if we're doing this crap. Okay? And we both saw it that way. And we left it at that. And I just hate to see this. So she did the video. And then he made another comment on X. I don't know if he's going to... If she's going to reply to that. And then he replies to that. And this is how things spiral out of it. And I don't want to be in the middle of it. I really don't. And I just hope that they both find a way to work this out. The encouraging thing was in Alyssa's video. She did say, you know, she'd like to get in touch with Chris. I'm not sure if making a video about it publicly is the right way to do it, Alyssa. I don't know if that's the right way to do it.

00:21:06 John Daub: Oh, I told you why I wouldn't have done it. I'm going to walk over here just a little bit. I'm going to sit here. This is why I would never have gone this route again. It's because in Japan, and they both live in Japan. They're both residents of Japan. Now you know where I am. You can come say hi if you'd like. I'm not going to be here much longer. When you damage someone's... It's very different than North America, guys. And maybe it's not. And legal mindset is a much better authoritative figure on this than me. And maybe he can bring this up here. But legal mindset, if you're watching this, I'll write to him on Twitter. There is... Defamation is a very tough thing in Japan. Insulting somebody publicly. And if you can prove damages, you can be sued in Japan. And if you're sued in Japan, it's not like you can go and publicly dispute this. It becomes a legal issue. And I believe you have to keep it to yourselves. So you want to avoid this kind of stuff. And whenever there's an issue like this... And this is why I reached out to Chris in many ways. I don't know if I would have if I'd been living in the US, maybe I'd been so like hurt by it. And when... I'm going to stick on topic here. But if... If Chris did name call Alyssa, there is a legal route if Alyssa were to get bullied and lose business as a result of it, that she could sue in Japan. And this is why it's... When you have 3 million followers or how many followers they have, you can't do this kind of stuff. Even though your heart says that you should, it's a really hard thing to do something like that. And I think that that's something you really need to be careful about. And why in hindsight, I should never have done that with Chris. And I wrote to Chris and I said, look, you know, we both have something to lose here. And I didn't talk more about that openly in my message to him. But the thing to lose here was like if we get... If this gets nuclear, we're just going to... This could turn legal. And that's where things... That's when this Japanese legal system... It's like you don't want to go there. Alright? You don't want to go there. If you go legal, it gets so messy. You're going to have this knot in your stomach for years and years and years.

00:23:37 John Daub: When I had to... When I lost my channel or I had to let it go, that was mostly my fault probably. I don't know about that. The last... I had to get a lawyer. I had the lawyer up. And we had to have discussions and mediate. We did not go to trial. Because I made sure that we could try to find a way to do this. I admitted like I'm not a perfect person. And I guess in some way they admitted that they weren't perfect either. But it was irreconcilable. And I left. And it was really hard, hard stuff. The last thing I wanted to do was to get the law involved here in Japan and take this to another level. I have the trademark for only in Japan. I trademarked it. So it wasn't like they could use that brand. I have a trademark. That's why you probably want to do this kind of stuff. It's very important. But if this spirals out of hand and this goes to the legal proceedings, I don't know if it's going to go there. Nobody wins, including Japan. Including... Because then we start talking about the legal system which probably needs a little bit of an overhaul. But maybe legal mindset can talk about this. And maybe that's something that we could collaborate on. If we can find a way to avoid that, that would be ideal. But the way I saw that this turn on X, I don't like it. I don't like it. It makes me feel really sick. It really does. Because I... Alyssa is a friend. I don't know Chris too well, but I have a lot of respect for Chris. I don't think things would be like this. One of the things that Chris and I did talk about by email... I wish we'd done it in person actually, Chris. Was that... I just lost my train of thought here. I'm not feeling too good now. One of the things was that... Not just the love of Japan, but... Oh, he... I don't know where I'm going with this. Maybe it'll come back to me. It's a hard thing. I'll take some questions here from you guys if you want to. It's a live stream and I think we should take advantage of that here. It's an unbalanced opinion here. Hold on. Raised by Chris. I just wish you'd remember... PewDiePie's collabs definitely helped a broadened Japan fanbase. So it seems sad that Chris called Alyssa to pull her down. I don't know too much about that. I don't think... Honestly, I don't think that... I think Chris built his channel up himself with a lot of hard work. I don't think you guys... I don't know. This is something that divides me so much. Because I just don't know Chris. And I know Alyssa. And I'm not going to say one bad thing about Chris Broad. And I'm not going to say one bad thing about Alyssa. Alright? So if you're looking for drama, it's not going to be stoked here but me. I have nothing but respect for both of them. But what Chris has done over the last few years is extraordinarily impressive. He's turned a broadened Japan into a brand. He's turned a broadened Japan into a SIM card company. Into a bar. Into so many amazing things. You don't know how hard that is. And when you become ultra successful like Chris has become, it is very, very hard to make new friends. Because everybody wants something from you for not the right reasons. And I don't think that Felix really played a significant role in Chris' success at all.

00:27:26 John Daub: These collaborations... I don't think you guys get this. Collaborating with a big YouTuber does not mean that you get subscribers. Alright? It doesn't work like that. And a lot of people want to collaborate with me. And I say it's not going to work the way you think. I've collaborated with a lot of big subscribers. I get maybe five or six new subscribers. It's not what you think. Alright? But what Chris has done is extraordinary. And I have nothing but an amazing amount of respect. I wish that I had this... To write a book. To do this stuff. I wish I had that kind of strength. But I'm so focused on my family and on Leo. And trying to forget what happened five years ago. With the channel and starting over. Trying to balance life a little bit. Before I lean into it. And he's about 20 years younger than me, I believe. Chris is a different generation. You have no idea how hard that is. And everybody wants to be your friend when you're a popular person like Chris is right now. And I get that. It's almost impossible to make authentic new friends right now. It is so hard. 100%. You're basically stuck with the old. The friends that you have. I don't know much about Connor. But he seems like a pretty good friend. Natsuki seems like a very good friend. So he's got a very good base of people around him. Alright? But once you go big and like that. It's very, very hard to surround yourself with new people. That aren't trying to take advantage of you. I've had a little bit of success in my life. So I totally get that. I remember to end the stream on a high note. Scott, exactly. Our time is limited. And the older I get, I have to make sure that the time is well spent. I want the short and honest content. Best info possible. Genuine person present. That's why we love you, John. Thank you so much.

00:29:22 John Daub: I don't want this to be about me. I hate that Alyssa name dropped me. I get it. I just kind of. I didn't have any heads up on it. I just got a little bit surprised. But I told Alyssa, look. If you really want the drama to end. Then it gets. You either deescalate it. And I said there's a legal route for this too. I told her. In a message to her. And I. That's how you get. If you feel this strongly. Then Chris should never have maybe made it public. I don't know. Alyssa probably should not have responded public. Best course would be to contact Chris. Chris is a reasonable dude. Okay? Bloke. I think the word is. He's a reasonable bloke. I think he gets the way it is. He understands. As I told you. When you get to a level of success. It's really hard. To be balanced. It's hard to go back. Alyssa has had extraordinary success as well. And it's hard. I just hope. I really, really hope. That they could find. A solution like Chris and I did. Because it was. It was my fault in many ways. I really don't know. To be honest with you. I think. It was. A little bit of both of us. But I took responsibility for my end of it. And I apologized. And as you all know. I don't mind. And I told this to Chris. And I said. I will go to another naked man festival. I will wear another thong. In sub freezing weather. If that means we can bring peace. Because I have zero pride. And as you know. I've shown my butt. Too many times on my channel. For. Content. But more. More to show the regionality. And Japanese culture. In a new way. But that's the kind of content that I make. And I can't. I'm not somebody who's going to call out. Any creator for the content that they make. Except for Johnny Somali. And you know why? Because he broke the law. And there's a big difference between. Making content that I wouldn't watch. That I might not agree with. And breaking the frigging law. And disturbing people. And making. Making insulting Japanese. Making them feel bad. Making the people that I love around me. The community around me feel bad. That is next level. And that's why he was arrested. That's one thing. But like again. Please be careful with this. Because this could go to a legal. Legal route. And I don't want to see that. Because after studying the Japanese legal system. Everybody tries to stay the heck away from it.

00:32:19 John Daub: Dimi is here. Dimi hey. Nice to see you. ChatGPT wrote that book. He said no stop it. I'm smiling because I use ChatGP2. So I wouldn't blame anybody. But I look. Let's stay positive here. Let's find a way to work together. There's too much crap right now in the world. There's too much of that. This is not the kind of drama that we want. Alyssa is a frigging talented person. She's so talented too. Alright here's. You know what. I'm reminded by our good friend Illumonad here. And he says the wisest things. I don't know. Maybe we're around the same age. No. Maybe. He's from Switzerland by the way. This is how I want to end things here. The person that is on the camera. Besides me. Because I'm the same person. I don't know. I got tired of wearing masks. I live in Japan for so long. I don't like to wear masks to be a different person. I'm just who I am. Cringy sometimes. Yes. But I am who I am. Said Popeye. But the person that is on camera sometimes is not the person that is like that in real life. There are a lot. And people are more reasonable. When someone takes a hard stand in public. Sometimes in private. They're feeling differently about it. It's very easy to find a way to come together and make peace. All you have to do is apologize or swallow your pride or just talk it out. You don't even have to apologize. But. Oh there it is. Now I remember. I like the cringy John. Stop it Peso. Stop it. Stop it. You do not like that. He knows what I'm talking about. The one thing that Chris told me. Look Peso you made me forget my train of thought. Chris said something in his message to me and I forgot. It was a good thing. It was a really good thing. But he doesn't want to hurt. He doesn't really want to hurt any creators. And even in the video that he made. That I deleted the tweet and he deleted that video. At the end of it and my moderators. You Peso and everybody else. Also told me that Chris said in it that he had a lot of respect for me. And I had a lot of respect for him. And we were able to find a way to make amends. And there's always a way to do that. But it's got to be done. It's got to be done. It's got to be done. Because this is about the audience. It'll be done if you want it to be done.

00:35:40 John Daub: Let's say one creator doesn't like the other creators content. And the other creator is not happy and makes a video. The ultimate power comes from the viewers maybe. I don't know. You guys will let your. Instead of getting behind somebody and making this work. And we pick a side. Pick a side of not getting into it anymore. Because that's the side I'm going to pick. I'm going to pick no one. I pick the side of peace. I pick the side where we all lose if this kind of stuff just keeps elevating. But I totally get it. Because when I was first. When someone shared with me. And Chris got it right too in that live stream that he did. Someone's going to share this stuff. So if you talk bad about somebody. Someone's going to share that crap. So just don't talk about it. Don't talk bad about anybody. We learn our lessons. And when that happens. Everybody knows about it. And I've not been perfect. Privately. You know I will share my opinions. And sometimes I'm venting. Because I'm getting attacked for people saying I steal some content. So I fight back a little bit. The best thing to do is to freaking ignore it. But I learned that the hard way. And now I do that.

00:37:07 John Daub: Got like you know. Cal. I got what. One of our. One of our moderators in the past. Had a. Had a nickname for me. With something like a callous or something. I don't know. He remembers who it is. I had disagreements with him too. But we found a way to work it out. Peacefully. And that's always the best way. I'm far from perfect though. I feel like these kinds of drama. Is just unavoidable on the internet. I mean Chris say that. And now say what about Pearl. And he didn't learn that. And. So I look. Don't take sides except for one. Let's end it. Or maybe there's something good that comes from it. I don't know. But I really do hope it. I hope it does. But to honor Illuminads. We should end on a very happy note. The happy note is that it feels like summer out here. And it's nice and warm. That possible trolls are around. You can't let them get to you. People are going to. People are going to share comments. I'm not sure what people shared with Chris actually that day. I don't think it was bad. I did have. I did feel upset. Because of the trolls telling me that I'm copying Chris. Which is not the case. But my biggest mistake. Was not. Now I remember. Peso don't distract me. I'm not going to look at the chat. But now I remember. The biggest. The biggest. Problem with my disagreement with Chris was that we did. We did not have communication. We failed. We both failed there. We both failed there. And. And. There's no excuse for it. And now we have communication. And I think Alyssa. And Chris. Don't have a way to communicate. Alyssa said that she followed him on Instagram. Good on you Alyssa. Try to find a way. Get it out of your system. Privately if possible. And find a way to mend this. It's gone on too long. And I'm in disagreement with the way that Chris did this as well. I think it shouldn't have been public. I think maybe Chris should have written Alyssa. But everybody has their own ways. Chris is 20 years younger than me. Not that that makes a difference. But maybe it does sometimes. Writing Lumen ads. Line is great. Alyssa used it. Line is good. We don't really use WhatsApp here. Instagram is probably the best way to get in touch. Maybe. But just reach out and talk about it. But when you do. There's no pride. You know. You have to swallow it. You have to find a way to come to the middle. You can't just. Alyssa is going to make the content that she wants. I'm not sure what she could do to go back on that. Chris is going to express his. Now I'm kind of ruining it. Chris is going to express his opinion. Which he totally has to do with. He doesn't like that kind of content. And Alyssa has every right to make any kind of content that she wants on Japan. That doesn't break the freaking law. I don't know. I don't know how you rectify that. Except that. That all three of them run in a naked man festival. Of my choosing. Which I think the community would support. Or perhaps. They wear those sumo wrestling outfits that you inflate and go at it. For charity. I'd be happy to see them. Any way that we could turn this into a positive would be an amazing thing. And again. Huge respect for Chris Broad. And what he's accomplished. And huge respect for Alyssa. Who has a 100 million view video. And has been able to take that success. And learn how to. How YouTube works in such an extraordinarily fast amount of time. To grow a channel that is. What is it? 1.5 million subscribers. Subscribers doesn't matter. As I say that. I only have 340. 330,000 subscribers. I'm just a small YouTuber. So you don't have to listen to me. But. I have a huge heart. So let's try to fix this. Chris took the.

00:41:43 John Daub: Alright. Just when I thought it was out. They dragged me back in. You can't go any lower than where we. Can you? You can't go any lower than where we are right now. Stop it. Maybe Felix should. Felix just got here. He's been here for like. Four. Like five years or something. Maybe Felix should stop it. Maybe not. I don't know. But. You can't get any lower than where we are right now. Because I know that. Neither one of them have a very high opinion of one another. So the best thing to do is to just communicate. Because what Chris wrote to me. Now I remember. Peso. And this is the last thing. This is the. This is the high note. And I'm leaving. For sure. Because I got a lot to do. You've got to communicate. You have to communicate. Chris and I failed to communicate. But in the end. We communicated. Because I'm too freaking old. Not to realize. That we need to communicate. And I learned my lesson. And we communicate. Every Gudi over the years. I was born at the age of six. And I hope I can tell my son. That he needs to learn to communicate. With his. Other kindergarten friends. To avoid conflict. Because this is the conflict. That should have been avoided. And perhaps. Chris. And Alyssa. We need to have. Some kind of yearly meeting. And without alcohol. Because I don't like alcohol much anymore. Maybe it requires it. Because this is Japan. Well. But it's not. In peace. To look for ways. To coexist together. Because. The loser is. Is the. The loser is the country. Which we love so much. In the end. Because to tarnish your reputation. Is awful. This doesn't help. I know. I. Ya know. I don't know what my reputation. Is these days. But I try my best to. Try to. You. No one can ever live squeaky clean. All right. It's impossible. But I. And I don't care about being trolled or people. Someone said that I was too nice, that I must be a serial killer because I'm trying to hide something. There's another person who's insistent that I'm some kind of fraud because I'm too nice.

00:44:13 John Daub: You can have your opinions. I really don't care. The bottom line is that I just do things the way I want to do it, just like Alyssa and just like Chris. And the Japanese side of me says to avoid all risk and stay out of confrontation. And if you have a problem, contact them and work it out. If I had a problem with Chris, I'd email him now. And if I have a problem with Alyssa, which I don't, I'd probably write her. Okay? John is a midnight snack hunt. I stopped eating after 6 p.m., but I could do a midnight snack once in a while. We'll do that. Yeah. Well, that's part of it. Rectify by just accepting all channels are allowed to show their own viewpoints. Many Aussie YouTubers are showing mature age content for 40-plus viewers. They're all great. You're very Switzerland, John. Very Switzerland does not get you a lot of viewers and fans, okay? Obviously. There's so many YouTubers now in Japan these days that doing what I do is not going to get me a million subscribers very quickly. And I realize that. I don't care. I'm just going to do. I do it because there's a passion within me to do it. That's all I care about. And my Patreon supporters will support me. And that's all that I care about. To try to be clickbaity, I want everybody to watch my channel. But there's a limit that I have. I think we all kind of get it. But if you don't deliver on the content, clickbait means that your content does not deliver on the sales pitch. That's clickbait. But if you can deliver on it. Then you've made a pretty good. You made pretty good content. I think both Chris and Alyssa do a pretty good job of that. But I'm Switzerland. I have to live through you for now, John. If health permits, please eat a piece of spicy fried chicken from the 7-Eleven. 8H. It's not going to be now, but I hope you're okay. And I will eat a piece of spicy chicken for you one of these days. It's not going to be now. I got to get. I got to get home. I got a video to edit. I have deadline. I'm leaving tomorrow. I got to finish this video. I'm going to be up all night.

00:46:44 John Daub: Absolutely should have been avoided. Many. So many great YouTubers. I don't know. I think they both know better. I think I failed Alyssa. I should have said get in touch with Chris. I didn't realize she was making a video on it. I think I failed Alyssa. I should have said get in touch with Chris. I patched it up with him. Maybe it's my fault. Hindsight is 20-20. They said. I actually don't even know what that means except for maybe 20-20 vision is good vision. I just say because other people say that when they mess up.

00:47:35 John Daub: I'm reading the comments. Leave it in the comments later. I'll check it out on the Shinkansen tomorrow. I'm going to go to the countryside to make another video showing you not Tokyo. That's what I want to do. But I did not want to do this live stream. I've been on it for a long time because I really care about this community. I care about Japan very much. This is not good for either Japan. And it's not good for the viewers. It's not good for the people that love Alyssa. It's not good for the people who love Chris. It's not good for the people who love my content either. And despite being name dropped suddenly. I really hope that you know if there's anything I can do to help I will. I think the title of this video might be clickbait. But it's true. I hope I delivered. It's not good for Japan. It's not good for the viewers. It's not good for either. It's not good for either's reputation. But I completely get it. You feel like this anger depends on your personality. An anger that builds or wells up in you when somebody name drops you. Or when somebody calls you out. And you feel wrongly. You feel like you have to defend it. You've got to do it. And for Chris it's like defending Japan. Defending this place. Defending himself. Probably Japan more than anything else. I really don't know. But I get it. And for Alyssa now that she's been name dropped like that before being contacted. I get it too. You feel upset. You feel like you've got to fight back. You can't stay silent. Because this creator's got such a big audience. You know better. So maybe Legal Mindset who everybody has great respect for except for the criminals. Maybe Legal Mindset will weigh in on this. The legality of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Japan's hard stance on insulting people. And hurting their business. Because abroad in Japan is a business. And Oriental Pearl is a business. Whether they like it or not it's a brand. And if you hurt that brand. And they can prove it with a small drop in subscribers or an increase in negative content. Then there is a legal case I believe to sue the other creator. And if you do that and you go into the legal system it sucks so maybe I think legal mindset could could make an episode on this it's good content but for me I'm not a lawyer I don't know and I don't want to hire one because it cost me money a lot of money Orioles are beefing that's wild I know I didn't expect it but I kind of did I know that there's been some feelings just like they were soft but it came it's like a zit you know it's there and then it starts to come that's not illuminates that's not the positive point I wanted to say but maybe it is because I had something pop up here from eating a lot of apple pie kit kats so good and so bad anyways take care guys suing someone could be a little exaggerated I think Jody you're 100 right but that's where this if you can't work it out and things are spiraling that's the and when you can't work it out and things are spiraling and you start name dropping people and people's reputations are on the line and things start to hurt and you start to lose business you start to lose subscribers people start dropping your patreon the business that you had built and worked really hard it takes a lot of work to get to the top but the fall to the bottom is so easy and if it happens because of a tweet or a post in Japan in Japanese law you could be held accountable for that and I think that's a good thing you could be held accountable it's you could go there to be served papers usually can go to mediation you don't have to go directly to court but you could go to mediation with two lawyers talking about this but there's a legal there's a legal reason why you should not be calling out anybody publicly because if you hurt another person's business you can be sued and it might be somewhat exaggerated but it's not it's not and the live stream can check me but I'm just telling If it does spiral, and as I told you, I don't know where they meet in the middle. I don't want to see that happen. But I'm saying the ultimate would be that kind of a thing. HelloHi821, we've been at this for a very long time. And we've had long discussions about a total range of things. He knows me quite well as I do him. Most of the time it's best to ignore the trolls. Many of them act outrageously to get others to talk about them and become their unwitting publicists. When you fall for the bait, as I did in 2021, usually it does not go well for you. One4AI, I'm behind the news, however I know, and watch both Chris and Alyssa alongside OG. I don't like it when people call me OG. I'm not a gangster, and I wasn't original. Chris's channel was before mine. He can be the OG. Tokyo Sam calls me OG. He's been on this platform since 2008, for crying out loud. Let's get back to 1 million. One4, that'd be great. I don't know. It's going to be hard. I'm not going to, I'm not, it's going to be hard. But I'm more focused on just having fun and telling good stories, you know what I mean? This isn't about me. But thank you. And people are not who they are sometimes on camera. Tokyo Sam is a great example of that. Yeah, he's a little crazy, and I don't agree with his live streams or his content. But in person? I've got friends from every background, every color, every race, every country. His heart is as big as him. I'm serious. He's a good guy. And his content doesn't always reflect that, though. Because he thinks he knows what he wants, but it's not exactly the same. If you have any comments, it's funny, right?

00:54:22 John Daub: Yeah, Japanese are complaining about the graffiti, but graffiti has been here for a very long time. That's not the issue. I just don't like the way things went down. I hope they work it out. And I'm not extending this for any reason other than the fact that for some reason I always find a way to extend every live stream. I gotta get home. Alright, everybody, please take care. Please take care. I lost the gimbal from lack of battery. And if you have any comments, please leave them in the question behind you. I'm gonna reach out to Alyssa as well. I sent a message to Chris. All good vibes and good feelings. And I really hope that, because I was name dropped, and I wanted to talk to him. But I really hope that you guys are okay. And I really do hope that we find a way to work this out when it gets to this point. Which hurts me right here. I feel it. Alright, mata ne. Thanks guys.