Another Japan Rail Pass gets a Price Hike
Another Japan Rail Pass gets a Price Hike
Overview
John Daub stands outside Tokyo Station near the JR Rail Cafe to deliver urgent news for travelers planning trips to the Hokuriku region. He announces a price increase for the popular Hokuriku Arch Pass effective March 16th, 2024, and introduces a new Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass designed to support earthquake recovery efforts in the Noto Peninsula. While the Arch Pass is for tourists, the new Ouen Pass is available to residents (including foreigners living in Japan) and offers significant savings for travel between Tokyo and the Hokuriku area.
John showcases detailed brochures for Kanazawa, Toyama, and Fukui, highlighting cultural sites like the Higashi Chaya district and the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum. He emphasizes the beauty of local train lines over the Shinkansen for experiencing rural Japan. Later in the stream, John meets up with viewer and friend Satrio, who is visiting from Indonesia with his family. They discuss travel costs, changes in Japan over the decades, and plans to visit the Ghibli Museum and Shibuya Sky.
Highlights
- 00:00 Price Hike Alert: The Hokuriku Arch Pass price increases on March 16th; lock in current rates before then.
- 02:15 New Support Pass: Introduction of the Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass for residents to support Noto Peninsula recovery.
- 05:30 Pass Comparison: Differences between the tourist Arch Pass and the resident Ouen Pass explained.
- 10:45 Brochure Tour: John shows off travel pamphlets for Kanazawa, Toyama, and Fukui.
- 14:20 Dinosaur Museum: Recommendation for the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum, inspiration for Jurassic Park.
- 18:00 Local Train Beauty: Why riding local lines offers a better experience than the Shinkansen.
- 25:30 Viewer Meetup: John meets Satrio and his family at Tokyo Station.
- 28:45 Travel Costs: Discussion on Japan travel expenses for Indonesians vs. past years.
- 32:00 Japan Then vs. Now: Satrio shares experiences from the 90s compared to today.
Timeline / Chapters
- 00:00 Intro at Tokyo Station
- 01:30 Hokuriku Arch Pass Price Increase Details
- 04:00 New Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass Announcement
- 08:00 Brochure Walkthrough: Kanazawa & Higashi Chaya
- 12:00 Brochure Walkthrough: Toyama & Fukui
- 16:00 Benefits of Local Train Travel
- 24:00 Meeting Satrio at Marunouchi
- 27:00 Travel Plans: Ghibli Museum & Shibuya Sky
- 30:00 Discussion on Japan Changes Since the 90s
- 34:00 Closing & Hiroshima Episode Promotion
Japan Travel Tips
- Lock in Prices: If planning to use the Hokuriku Arch Pass, purchase before March 16th to avoid the price hike (increase of approx. ¥5,000).
- Resident Pass: Foreign residents in Japan can use the new Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass (¥20,000) for 4 days of travel, supporting earthquake recovery.
- Exchange Rates: Check
USD JPYon Google for current rates; John notes ~¥150 to the dollar at time of filming. - Local Trains: Consider local lines (e.g., Johana Line, Himi Line) for scenic views and cultural immersion instead of only using the Shinkansen.
- Cherry Blossoms: Forecasted to start in Tokyo around March 20th; plan trips between late March and early April.
- Reservation Required: The new Ouen Pass requires seat reservations for Shinkansen portions; not entirely unlimited like the Arch Pass.
Japanese Language & Culture Notes
- Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass: Ouen (応援) means "support" or "cheer." This pass is designed to support recovery efforts.
- Akiya: (空き家) Vacant house. Kanae is converting a family akiya into an Airbnb.
- Gakuran: (学ラン) Traditional Japanese male school uniform. Satrio jokes about John not wearing one.
- Konbini: (コンビニ) Convenience store. Discussed regarding budget travel food options.
- Dorama: (ドラマ) TV drama. Referenced regarding Tokyo Love Story.
- Fiscal Year Change: End of March is a busy time in Japan as the fiscal year ends, leading to many service changes.
Food & Drink Guide
- Craft Beer: Mentioned at Hitachino Nest location near Tokyo Station (second floor).
- Onigiri: (Rice balls) Satrio mentions eating these for 100 yen during budget travels in the past.
- Indonesian Chocolate: Satrio gifts John traditional chocolate from Indonesia.
- Crab & Seafood: Fukui and Toyama regions highlighted for excellent crab and seafood.
- Hitachino Craft Beer: Available at Tokyo Station; John and Peter von Gomm previously drank there.
People
- John Daub: Host. Provides detailed rail pass info and meets viewers.
- Satrio: Viewer and friend from Indonesia. Visiting Japan with family; shares perspective on travel costs and historical changes.
- Kanae Daub: John's wife. Mentioned as working on converting a family akiya into an Airbnb.
- Leo: John's son. Mentioned regarding school schedule.
- JR Staff: Ladies at the JR Rail Cafe window who provided brochures and pass information.
Key Takeaways
- The Hokuriku Arch Pass is getting more expensive on March 16th, 2024.
- A new Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass allows residents to travel to the region cheaply while supporting earthquake recovery.
- Local train lines offer a richer cultural experience than the Shinkansen.
- Tourism in Hokuriku (Kanazawa, Toyama, Fukui) needs support following the Noto Peninsula earthquake.
- Japan travel costs have fluctuated, but budget options like konbini food remain viable.
Notable Quotes
- 00:30 "It's actually a really good deal, so it's a little bit cheaper than the Hokuriku Arch Pass, so it gives you something to consider."
- 03:00 "Poor Nagoya gets the bad end on that, but because they consider you used tourists as well."
- 14:30 "The Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum is one that I highly recommend to everybody. Especially if you're going to Fukui."
- 16:45 "When you get away from Tokyo, the commuter lines... That is a big mistake because some of the beauty and some of the culture you see by riding these local lines."
- 28:00 "Before, there are many Indonesians, uh, they choose to eat at, uh, konbini. But now, many of them choose at the proper restaurant, I think."
Related Topics
- Japan Rail Pass Price Hikes
- Hokuriku Region Travel Guide
- Noto Peninsula Earthquake Recovery
- Local Train Travel in Japan
- Tokyo Station Hidden Gems
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Full Transcript
00:00 John Daub: Tokyo Station, the origin of the Hokuriku Arch Pass, one of the great deals in JR's pass arsenal, and it's about to get a price increase. How you doing, everybody? But more than that, there's going to be a new pass. Actually, it's already out. There's a new pass that's available to people like me that Kanae and I can use to go to Kanazawa, and I'm going to give you information on that pass.
00:20 John Daub: And you can get it, too, if you're a tourist visiting here. It's actually a really good deal, so it's a little bit cheaper than the Hokuriku Arch Pass, so it gives you something to consider whether you want this pass or the other pass. But one thing is for sure, the ladies over there will help you. I spent some time, again, inside of the JR Rail Cafe. There's a window just over there. You see the JR right behind the Daimaru inside of there is a window. And the ladies helped me once again.
00:45 John Daub: All right, let's go over this information. March 16th. Mark that down if you're thinking of going to Kanazawa, because the price on the Hokuriku Arch Pass is set to go up. Now, they raised the price of the JR Rail Pass last year. We all felt it. We all knew about it. We all thought it was pretty unfair. The prices were pretty, it was like a 70% increase, which was high.
01:10 John Daub: But this pass, again, let's go over the information here. The Hokuriku Arch Pass, it's seven days, consecutive, unlimited rides on the Hokuriku Rail Pass. And it's a route between Tokyo and Osaka via Kanazawa, Toyama, and Fukui. And I'm going to show you some information on there. There's a ton of stuff. If you look at this map here, this shows you the guide, where you could go with that.
01:35 John Daub: And a lot of people are kind of upset, like, why isn't Nagoya in on this? I saw in the comments there, why isn't Nagoya in on it. And it wouldn't be an arch if Nagoya was in on it. Nagoya is JR Central. That's why the Hokuriku Pass is not in JR Central. They sort of, well, it sort of is, Kansai. But, well, no, not really. But they bypassed the central area because it's so crowded with the Tokaido Shinkansen and the other rail pass. They wanted to encourage people not to go.
02:00 John Daub: Poor Nagoya gets the bad end on that, but because they consider you used tourists as well. But Kanazawa and Fukui and Toyama really would like to get, and Karuizawa, oh, Karuizawa's on there too. That's part of the JR Tokyo Wide Pass. There's a lot of passes here. But this one will take you through one of my favorite areas of Japan, Hokuriku. That's right. And you'll remember this because of the earthquake that happened on January 1st.
02:30 John Daub: The area, the peninsula, the Noto Peninsula is still hurting pretty bad. But, you know, from Tokyo to Osaka, again, if you're going to Kyoto, this is the new golden route, they call it. You don't have to go, you know, on the Tokaido Shinkansen, which is the one everybody knows. You can go around to Kyoto. There's just no Shinkansen connecting Kyoto with Kanazawa. You have to take another train.
03:00 John Daub: But sometimes it's even better to take the other train. Let me be honest with you, Shinkansen's too fast. The other one has bigger windows. It might even be more luxurious. Now, the pass for the Hokuriku Arch Pass, the price is ¥24,500 right now. Children are half that. Online reservation is a little bit more. And that's until March 15th. And this is going to change March 16th.
03:30 John Daub: So, that was me, by the way. You might want to lock that price in. If you know that you're going to use this pass, lock the price in so that you can get it. A little bit cheaper price. That's a ¥1,000 or ¥2,000 or ¥4,000. Depends on how you travel. All this information, again, it's in the description of this video. Or you can just Google. Hokuriku Arch Pass. Here's the full rail network here.
04:00 John Daub: Again, you can take the Shinkansen with this. You can get reserved tickets with this. Hokuriku Shinkansen does not depart as often as the Tokaido Shinkansen. But it's not as crowded as the Tokaido Shinkansen. Especially with Japanese travelers. This does also give you unlimited rides within Tokyo as well as the Kyoto and Osaka area. You can get to Kansai Airport. Or you can get to Narita Airport with this pass.
04:30 John Daub: So you can come in from Narita, use the pass, go all the way to Kanazawa, Kyoto, Tokyo, and leave from Kansai. And this pass would be your ticket. And it's much, even with the price hike, it's still much cheaper than the Japan Rail Pass. Because of that other price hike. Because JR Central kind of wanted to, you know, decrease the price. And increase the ridership because it was overly crowded. And it was just painful.
05:00 John Daub: The only thing with the JR Hokuriku Pass is that you need to have a tourist visa. And you need to be, I'm not eligible for it. So that kind of stinks. Neither is Kanae, which double stinks. So, you know, what are you going to do? But again, there is a pass for me that I'm going to talk about in about 30 seconds from now. As we finish this up here. The pass is valid from midnight to midnight. All this information you could probably get here. And it's pretty thorough. It lets you know which trains you can and cannot ride. There's a lot to see there.
05:30 John Daub: What was really interesting, they're going to raise the price here. But they also had this. They were talking about this. They're going to add, by raising the price, yeah, they're going to make more money off of it. But they're also going to add more benefits. Which they hope gets you to be more attracted to this area. Some of them include a lot of museum of arts. You can see galleries. A lot of cultural places that you can go now. With discounts.
06:00 John Daub: I think the dinosaur museum might even be one of it. The Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum is one that I highly recommend to everybody. Especially if you're going to Fukui. I went there. It was one of the best dinosaur museums in the world. It has to be. And when you enter it, you'll notice that it looks very much like the beginning of Jurassic Park. Which was inspired, the design of the park, inspired by the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum. So I've heard.
06:30 John Daub: So, I think we just passed it. So you get a discount on that. But I put a link in the description if you want to get more of the benefits. But it's going up by about 5,000 yen. So, there. The information now is for you. You can do with it what you like. It's always nice to go in. I actually rode my bike here. It's not that far. But to get the information from JR directly is something that I always do.
07:00 John Daub: Now, this pass is the one that is most interesting. There was a press release that came out on February 14th. It's Valentine's Day. And I love JR East does not need to do this. I think it's really nice that they're doing it. And they're putting a percentage of the pass to donations to the Noto Peninsula, which is great. Basically, anybody, including you, Japanese nationals, if you're married to somebody who's Japanese, you're living in the Kanto area around Tokyo or the Hokuriku area, you could use this to come to Tokyo too, I guess.
07:30 John Daub: But this pass encourages you to go to Hokuriku. It's called the Hokuriku Ouen Free Pass (Hokuriku Support Free Pass). Free ticket or free kippu. I forget. Free pass. And it's for Japanese and for everybody. And you can get a chance to go to Hokuriku and explore this region. There's still a lot of places that are impacted in Noto Peninsula. So you can't go up there. But you can still go to Kanazawa and the Hokuriku region, Toyama, Fukui. These places are also impacted by the earthquake. Saw a decrease in tourists. And definitely, I think this area could, even though they have the Hokuriku Arch Pass, could use more tourists, even from Japanese, to go and visit.
08:00 John Daub: So JR is doing a great thing. JR East and JR West, I guess, are trying really hard to get people to go there. And I think that's great. The press release is in Japanese. I can go over it a little bit with you here. Put it right in the center. So it starts on the 16th, which is just last Friday. And it goes on until the 15th. But the last day to buy this pass is March 11th, which is the day of the anniversary of the Tohoku earthquake. So until the morning time, I think it is. It goes on. So you want to buy this by the 11th or as soon as possible.
08:30 John Daub: ¥20,000 for this. And it allows you four days of limited travel in the Hokuriku region for ¥20,000. A one-way ticket to there, I think, is like ¥13,000. So round trip would be... No, I think it's more than that. So round trip would be pretty significant. Yeah. Hold on. I think there must be some median. I think it would be like... You're saving about 40%, I think, on this. Probably more.
09:00 John Daub: And you could actually go back and forth and ride the Shinkansen as much as you wanted. So I think this pass is really good. It's only four days compared to seven. But for a getaway, like, Kanae and I are thinking, boy, do we need a spring vacation? No, because we just went to Okinawa. Right. Okinawa. But when you get a ticket like this, and my heart's like wanting to promote this area more, maybe I go there and do some live streams or make an episode for you guys.
09:30 John Daub: If you're interested in more Kanazawa live streams, let me know in the comments below because this is such a great pass. I'd love to promote Kanazawa more. I haven't been there in a few years. It seems like a good idea. Cody is here. Michael Sassano is here. Hi, everybody. Been gone for a few years because of sickness. Recovering and started working. Now taking my first vacation and we'll do it in Japan.
10:00 John Daub: Well, I'm glad you're feeling better, Cody, and welcome back. Pricey but worth it for my first vacation. Cherry blossoms, which are going to be beautiful. Cody, for that, I'm going to put the schedule for the cherry blossoms right there so you know. They're slated to start in Tokyo on the 20th. This is another area. This is the Kansai region and the Shikoku region. But Kochi, this area around the 20th. So if you get here between the 20th and April 5th, you should be able to see them despite the schedule. There's always some that are hanging on there. Appreciate it.
10:30 John Daub: How much is ¥20,000 in American dollars? The exchange rate is ¥150 to the dollar. Simple math, right? I hesitate to put prices in edited videos because it fluctuates. It's a simple Google. You don't even have to write U.S. dollars. You can just write USDJPY and you get it. Just Google USD space JPY, Japanese yen. And every day go in there and you can see the exchange rate. Google just puts it up there. And if you want it switched, just put JPYUSD. You can do that for any currency just in that Google.com search line. So there you go.
11:00 John Daub: Hey, we got some people watching from San Diego. You can write in where you're watching from as well if you want. Michael Sassano writes in here, Yay, live stream! More changes on the rail passes. Yep. I hope you get here soon, buddy. But I love coming down here and seeing the ladies. I was just here like a few days ago. They're like back so soon. Yeah, but I'm not buying a pass. I need more information because it's the end of March and the beginning of April.
11:30 John Daub: This time of year, a lot of things change in Japan because the fiscal year changes. And that means that like all these new things start to come out. And that's an exciting thing. But it's also a sad thing too because we lose things that maybe we liked. But Japan is trendy like that and that's sort of the way they roll here. You know, like Cherry Coke was a trendy flavor. They had that here for, I don't know, like six months. And then it was gone. And I haven't seen Cherry Coke around for a while except at specialty stores. But the whole country got the Cherry Coke for a while and then it was gone.
12:00 John Daub: So they had Vanilla Coke and they had like all these weird Cokes. So yeah, you know. So I want to take a look at here. So there's SoraNews24. They broke this story too. They're always looking at the press releases like I am. So let's see what they wrote in here. The 4-day Hokuriku Ouen Ticket. This is information for the Japanese, for people like me. Once upon a time, less than a year ago, the Japan Rail Pass was one of Japan's greatest travel bargains. They say once upon a time. They're totally making fun of the price hike here.
12:30 John Daub: The newest pass which just went on sale from East Japan Railway Company, JR East, has been added to appeal, added appeal of contributing to the recovery of the Hokuriku region. This one is not a pass for tourists though. It's the Ouen Free Ticket. Again, I put the link in the description if you want more information on this one. They do the math here in this. Kenrokuen. Oh, I got some brochures I want to show you here. 4-day pass includes a round trip, round trip ride to and from Tokyo and the Hokuriku Ouen Free Ticket applicable area.
13:00 John Daub: So, okay, so you can't go back and forth like a commuter pass. You can only go once. So you have to, part of the ticket is to make a reservation apparently. I don't know, this is like a brand new ticket. We're learning about it right now. Tokyo and Ueno stations and those in the Hokuriku, Kanazawa, Shin-Takaoka, Toyama, Kurobe, which is the Kurobe Dam, beautiful area.
13:30 John Daub: So, oh, oh, okay. So the ladies told me something. We speak in Japanese, so like 95% of the stuff I get it. There's like some things. I was like, what? Can you say that in English? You have to make a reservation to leave. So you have to reserve your Shinkansen ticket to get off at one of these stations to leave. I guess they want to lock in the fact that you are going to the Hokuriku region, which is smart. It's not the honor system, but hey, I don't mind for that price. It comes out for 20,000 yen, $136 for round trip ticket to and from Hokuriku, which is crazy.
14:00 John Daub: So basically, you can't get back on the, I'm not sure, is it a free pass? It says so, free ticket. So I guess you can get on local. Once you get the Shinkansen there, you can't take the Shinkansen again. You have to take the local trains. So let's see here. The complete list of Hokuriku tickets here is here. I just went by here. So you can get the, it looks like you just get the ticket to Hokuriku with unlimited free rides on trains within the designated area.
14:30 John Daub: So that's what that means, which is, I guess, a free pass, understood. So the Shinkansen ticket, one there and one back. So you don't get two or three rides on the Shinkansen. Hokuriku Pass has unlimited use on the Shinkansen. So you can go to Toyama to Kanazawa on the Shinkansen. You can't do that with this pass, apparently. So that's good to know. I'm running through this just like you. These train lines here that they're listing are absolutely beautiful. When you get away from Tokyo, the commuter lines, everybody, see, the Johana Line, oh, I like the name of that, Himi Line, Himi-sen.
15:00 John Daub: When you get out of Tokyo and you look at the local train lines, it's something that tourists don't do because you guys are taking the Shinkansen everywhere. You don't ride these local train lines. That is a big mistake because some of the beauty and some of the culture you see, the people you see by riding these local lines. When you do that, you start to understand Japan more. This is the one that the kids take to go to school. This is the one that most of the commuters take to go to work. This is the one where you get to see the morning in the countryside.
15:30 John Daub: You get to see the evening in the countryside from the window, how dark it is outside there, but how beautiful and stunning the mountains are at a normal speed because the Shinkansen is going like this. So I always say the rail pass is good, but you miss a lot. True story. You miss a lot. I'm going to just pan around here, and I want to hear some of your questions. I see some of your questions here. That's Tokyo Station and the crossing right now. There's a Hitachino craft beer place up on the second floor. Peter and I had a few drinks there. Before he went home, he'd have a job nearby. We'd be able to get a quick drink.
16:00 John Daub: It's only like a five, ten-minute bike ride for me. So if you're thinking of going up to catch a drink or a quick meal, you can do that. Up there. I went in there, and I asked the ladies for info, and they gave me a bunch of really beautiful pamphlets. The jewel of the Hokuriku region is Kanazawa. And you can see the Higashi Chaya (East Teahouse district). Whoa, I can hear the Shinkansen bells. That's like 100 meters away. So Kanazawa's jewel is the Higashi Chaya district. That's where all the geisha and the tea shops are.
16:30 John Daub: But you can see it's got a really... Do you see this at sunset? That's where the walls are. You can't really see in the houses, but that's what the streets look like. These cobblestone streets. It looks like something that could be out of Pompeii, right? It's ancient Japan. You feel that in Kanazawa. In particular, like, Kyoto is a beautiful place, but I always thought that Kanazawa has just as much history. You really feel it. And Kanazawa Station's iconic ToToro Gate (ToToro no Kuchi), which came with the opening of the Shinkansen line there in 2014, I believe it was 2014. It's full of a lot of festivals here.
17:00 John Daub: But Toyama's also got the UNESCO World Heritage Site's Shirakawa-go. Shirakawago. Oh, this is where I had in Toyama City, the most beautiful Starbucks in the world. It was for, like, many years. It's just over here. Made an episode on that back in the day. So Toyama's a stunning place. And then, of course, you have Fukui. And Fukui's got the Dinosaur Museum. As well as Fukui Station, has dinosaurs right outside of Fukui. Shirakawago, right. Thank you, Eli. The Fukui Station, just going outside there, has these mechanical dinosaurs, which are freaky awesome. And that's what you get out in the countryside.
17:30 John Daub: Like, beautiful old scenes and cafes. I want to know where that is. Wow, look at that camping. Is that real? Did you guys see that? My voice is breaking out of shock. All right, you can see, this is where they got the inspiration for Jurassic Park, from the mechanical dinosaur that was inside of the, the Fukui Prefectural Dinosaur Museum, which is just freaking incredible. Look at this. What? I would like to try that. I wouldn't, but I totally would. It's like a unique type of glamping. Onsens. Wow. Look at that. The castle. Fukui has a lot of castles.
18:00 John Daub: And this one, covered in clouds. When was that? Between October and April. Wow. Okay, I guess the Sea of Japan comes in and brings that mist. That's an Instagram photo. And the coastline is really beautiful in Fukui. Some amazing seafood. The crabs there are very good. And the ladies gave me this as well. Glamping. Because you have to clamp the tent to the side of a cliff. Oh, man. Look at that. The ocean meets with the mountains. That definitely. Umi Toyama. Wow. Umi is a sea. Wow. Look at that gorgeous food. Craft beer. I'm sold. A lot of history here. Yeah, Toyama is such a beautiful area. I think that they're doing such a good thing. They're trying to, they're trying to, uh, hey.
24:00 Satrio: Hi. I know you're in Jaisu. I'm on the Marunouchi side. Where's your gakuran (school uniform)? You're not, uh, you're not answering my question. Oh, sorry.
24:15 John Daub: Yeah. I'm getting gakuran in this. Yeah. Yeah, you know. It's, it's too warm. By the way, you all know who this is? Yeah. It's Satrio. Yes. Yeah, but this time, no, no sandals. No, no. Oh, right. Yeah, you were running sandals. Yeah. No, no. Now you're at top speed here. Yeah. Oh, very good. Very cool. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I, I missed your message, huh? Yeah. Okay, John. Okay. Whoops. Yeah. But Kerry says hi. Everyone's starting to say hi to Satrio. Hi, guys. Hi, Kerry. Hi, everybody.
24:45 Satrio: How's this trip going this time? Yeah, good. Uh, first day, uh, we went to, uh, Fuji. Oh, yeah. And then, yeah, the, that usual tourism thing, like, uh, Hakone pirate ships. And then, uh, what is it? Mika. Hey, Mika. Say, hey. Hi. Hi to Ibu. Hi to Kakak. Like, uh, yeah. And then, uh, we went to Yeti Resort. Okay. Yeah. And then, uh, Gotemba. Okay. I don't know why, uh, they choose Gotemba instead of other things, like, activities.
25:15 John Daub: It's a good, when you go back? Satrio: Uh, on Friday night. John Daub: Friday night? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Saturday at midnight, I think. Yeah, early. Uh, welcome club. Welcome club. Yeah. Saturday. John Daub: Satrio comes to Japan, what, maybe twice a year? Satrio: Um, yeah, hopefully. John Daub: Hopefully? Yeah. Is it, is Japan expensive for Indonesians?
25:45 Satrio: For Indonesians? Uh, it's, uh, quite on the mid to high. John Daub: It's a bit to high end? Yeah. But is it cheaper now than it was three years ago? Satrio: Uh, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. Before, there are many Indonesians, uh, they choose to eat at, uh, konbini (convenience store). Yeah. Yeah. But now, they choose to eat at, uh, konbini. But now, many of them choose at the proper restaurant, I think.
26:15 John Daub: Yeah, you can, I was the same way when I was younger. I hitchhiked and was eating onigiri for 100 yen and using the money for other things, right? Yeah. To go and travel. Yeah. Shinkansen's expensive, but that's a good experience. Yeah. Oh, it's so, I'm glad you can make it here. Yeah, okay. Oh, cool. Satrio: Yeah, Kanai wanted to see you, too. John Daub: Yeah. But she's actually, I just, she just left to go to, she's turning, uh, her grandfather's house into, like, an Airbnb hotel.
26:45 John Daub: I see. It's in akiya (vacant house) right now. Yeah, yeah. So she has a meeting over there to, to fix that. I see. But she wanted to see, it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe, uh, next time, uh, until Friday, we can meet again. Yeah. We can meet in Gakuran. But, uh, if you, if I know your schedule. Did you bring it? Uh, no. Oh. Okay. It's in hotel, actually. Oh, I'm, oh, it's here in Japan, though. Yeah. Oh, you have it. Yeah. Your wife is here, too? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Okay, well, we'll have to. In the hotel, in the hotel. Because her big sister is quite tired because of yesterday. And tomorrow, we went to Ghibli Museum. Oh, wow. You got tickets. Yes. Uh. Tickets for the Ghibli Museum. Yeah. It's already sold out in 30 minutes, I believe. You gotta get it fast in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
27:15 John Daub: Chat every now and then. This is really cool. So, I, I love it when people come here. Do you want another You Found Me card? No. I, I'm just trying to get rid of them. Yeah. But the, uh, yeah, it's, it's nice to have, when you do come to Japan, if you can catch me, I'm always happy to say hi to you and talk a little bit. Uh, that's cool. We'll have to see if, I don't know, maybe you're going back when again? On, on, uh. Friday. Friday, right? Yeah. Oh, gosh. Is that enough time? Friday night. Yeah. Friday night. Yeah, it'd be cool to, to catch up with you guys. I'm gonna, I'm gonna see what Kanai's doing. Because I have another, uh, I got a bunch of, I might not even be in Tokyo. Yeah. This week. It's, it's okay if, if not. But, uh, actually, I, I, I got you, uh, the Indonesian chocolate. Yeah, it's traditional Indonesian chocolate. Wow. For you and the family in Rio also. Oh, well, that's cool. That's a reason. Well, we'll try to, we'll try to find some time to, to catch up with you. Leo finishes at, at like 5 PM, Hoi Kuen. On the weekdays. Uh huh. So, yeah, we'll, let me ask Kanai and see, see if we can find a day. Okay. Well, I'll write you on, I'll respond to you on Patreon. Ah, yeah. They changed the way that Patreon has the messages, so it's hard to find. It's like, they did some chat thing that hasn't been released yet. So they don't get notifications anymore. Yeah. For tomorrow, actually, uh, I'm quite busy because, uh, in the morning we got the Ghibli Museum. Yeah. And then, uh, on the evening, uh, 7, 5 PM maybe, we get into the Shibuya Sky. Oh wow. Okay. Yeah. Uh, because, uh, my parents also, uh, came here today. Oh, I see. Uh, I'm, I'm waiting for them in the Marunouchi site actually. Wow. So the whole, the whole family really is here. They just came from Jakarta this morning.
28:45 John Daub: Do you guys have any questions for Satrio? You can, this is live. Yeah. If you have a question. He's, uh, been here many times and he's, you're, you're a very experienced Japan traveler. Satrio: No, no, not actually. He has a different, very good, different point of view. John Daub: I beat you the first time I went to Japan. I'm in 1992. Right? Yeah. Satrio has been here. Like, I mean, yeah, but that just means you're older than me. No, no, no, no, no. It's for a student exchange. It's not a good, I beat you. I was here before you. That means you're like, you're definitely over 30. So hold on a second. We do the math here. I was in my high school. It was high school here. And then I got choose for a student exchange.
29:30 Satrio: What was it like being non-Japanese? Did you have, uh, in the nineties or yeah, in the nineties, the nineties, actually the, the, the, the people like a bit conservative. Oh yeah. Uh, people like more conservative than now. I think. Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh, for now it got more, more, uh, diverse. Uh, yeah. I think. And then, uh, in Harajuku, uh, back then it was, uh, much more nerdy than now. Yeah. It really didn't start to change. So like about 10 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. And then back then there are no many, uh, English sign. Yeah. Oh yeah. It was like that. And when I came six years later, 98, almost mostly Kanji and Hiragana. I see. Kids couldn't read Kanji yet, but very little. And then I read a little Romaji, which are the Roman letters. Uh huh. Yeah. Romaji. So it was kind of a very different world back then. I kind of liked it better then. Uh, yeah. Maybe. Really? It seems like more of an adventure to me. Yeah. In a way. Maybe. Yes. Because yeah. More adventurous. Yeah. Yeah. That's more classic. It's like, do you know, in American, do you watch the Tokyo Love Story? No. Dorama? Uh, yeah. No, but, uh, that was a manga, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a manga series. Actually, it's a manga, but then they made the, uh, dorama (TV drama). And then now they have the new version in Netflix. Oh, right. Yeah. They're doing something with that. Yeah.
31:00 John Daub: So any questions here? Hold on a second. How much Japanese does someone need to learn to travel in Japan? Right. It's in Robert. Uh, how much Japanese? How much Japanese do you need to know to travel around? To travel around? I'm around outside the ticket, yeah. Okay. Do you need Japanese? Do you use it? Your Japanese? Oh, no, no, no. Oh, Japanese language? You mean? Yeah. Oh, no, no. No, I don't use. I can't. I can't speak Japanese, actually. You can't? Yeah, I can't. I cannot. Oh, you cannot? Yeah, I cannot. Wait. So you went to school here, but you could not. Yeah, but, uh, we have the, like, one month preparation before. All right. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. We had one month preparation, and then we came here for around three months, I believe, for student exchange. Oh, student exchange. Awesome. Yeah. It was, uh, I was in, uh, first class of high school. Yeah. Uh, I'm, uh, maybe they choose me because they, they think, uh, my art teacher, they think I, I was clever, maybe. I don't know. They, they, they choose the right person. They, they, they choose the wrong person, you know? No, no. Back then, like, you know, in Indonesia, was Japan like a, like a big brother or something? Yeah, it was in, uh, World War II, yeah. Yeah, because it's, you know, it's Asia, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's been around for a long, long time. So, we got connection with your episode of Hiroshima. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because after the, uh, the American bomb Japan and then we got independence. Right. You know, you guys, I think that impacted a lot of people.
33:00 John Daub: But if you haven't seen that episode yet, I changed the thumbnail. Yeah. This is what it looked like before. Yeah. It's a new thumbnail to it. Oh. And I'm hoping more people watch it. But it's such a, it's such a, uh, uh, engaging story. Uh-huh. That one that we did, the, about the rail network. 72 hours after the atomic bomb. A lot of people don't know this. A lot of people don't know this. Hiroden, the company in Hiroshima, got the rail network back running 72 hours after the bomb. As Nagasaki was experiencing it, public transportation was already restarting in Hiroshima.
34:00 John Daub: The story, I interviewed a conductor who was 14 years old. She's still alive. Amazing story. Inspirational lady. You have to see that episode if you haven't. And leave me a comment, too, because there's not enough comments about it. I think it's an extraordinary one.